My first Recording Session in months......

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I got my d112 and my 603s in the mail today, so i'm back in business. I recorded this tune about an hour ago, all tracks was one take. The drums was recorded with a d112 on kick, sm57 on snare and 2 603s as overheads. I sent the overheads through A Art TBS Tube pre-amp and into the vf-16. The kick and snare was sent through a Behringer Composer Pro and into the vf-16. The bass was recorded through the Art Pre and into the Vf-16 and the guitar was recorded through a POD and into the vf-16. None of the tracks have been Eqed, except for the Kick and Snare, i boosted just a little high end.

"Jam"

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tell me what you think.

thanks

Z
 
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that sounded pretty damn good Zeke.....you are really making the most of a modest setup.....if I lived there, Id definitely be a client

:)

great job.....
 
Yes, I am :)

Hi there,

Some thoughts while I was listening to it -

- Drum sound is great
- Snare could maybe "crack" a little more
- Bass could do with more "oomph", I am too unintelligent to tell you whether this is a compression or EQ thing. I would like to feel it in my chest more.
- Guitar tone is nice, maybe a little dark for my tastes. I would like to hear it a little higher in it's tone and further up in the mix.
- Nice picking at the end there!

I like the sound of your toys and am totally envious!

:) Q.
 
Hey Zeke, how many mics do you normally mic your kit with? Four? Is that the most you can do at once?
 
Also, your snare sounds great, is it the tuning or did you put an O-ring on it?
 
I can do 8 at once, but i like using 4 mics. Sometimes i'll use a room mic if i need a "Roomy" sound. But with using 4 mics, you set phasing problems to a min. And you get a pretty cool sound too. I'm not sure if i would use toms mics, for one thing, i don't have any, and using only 4 mics on the drums, leaves room for other live inputs (my recorder can only do 8 track sim.) Funney thing, the room that i recorded this in had no acoustic treatment whatsoever. I wounder if i should leave it that way or treat it to kill some of the revurb?

Thanks for asking

Zeke
 
FattMusiek said:
Also, your snare sounds great, is it the tuning or did you put an O-ring on it?
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It's a Vintage SlingerLand Snare. I used a O ring and tuned the top head tight and the bottom head midish.
 
I think the verb sounds good, I like the sound of your room. I have a lot of trouble with my room and set up, I get so little hi-end. I plan on upgrading over the summer. I want to be able to mic the snare, kick, hi hat, 3 toms, and two overheads. I'm inviting the phase problems in basically.

What's your placement for you kick? I remember you saying something in someone's post a while back about you not having a head on your kick at all, memory might be a little fuzzy. I heard having no head on your kick is dangerous, it can warp if you're using mounted toms. I cut a big hole into my head, left 2-3 inches of head.
 
ZEKE SAYER said:
It's a Vintage SlingerLand Snare. I used a O ring and tuned the top head tight and the bottom head midish.
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As I thought, as much as I like the pingy/hi snare, I like that fat sound. The problem I'm getting with the fat sounding snare is that it's making my recordings sound muddy and low. I have to keep messing with placements.
 
For the kick, i'm using a pacific CX-series 22" kick drum with the front head off and a small (1' and a half X 1') pillow in the kick, up against the back head. the beater that i'm using is the "hammer" style, that helps alot with the punchy sound. I have the back head tuned down real low. Now for the mic placements: the kick mic (d112) is on a lo-profile stand right out side the kick, facing the beater. The snare sound is mainly coming from the overheads (Marshall MXL603s) and i got the sm57 on the snare about touching the head, close to the rim, facing the drummer.

When i started in recording (about 4 years ago,) My drum sound sucked big time. So, i've spent the last 4 years in the studio trying diffurent mic placments, and such. But don't get too involved with the drums. I found my self focusing ONLY one the drums in a recording and not spending too much time on the other guitars and bass, ect, ect,. Just keep on keep'n on. You'll find your sound.
 
zeke, i'm listening on shitty headphones but i'm still jealous of anyone with the ability to mic up a real kit. i'll check it out on my monitors eventually and let you know what i think. i've never mic'ed real drums before though.
 
Ah man, you can't beat the real drum sound! I am actually going to be getting some soon (to replace an old kit) and some mics to record them, so I was really interested in this thread.

The sound is just so great, and much improved over most (all?) drum machines -- imho -- :)

The recording sounded real good. I think I would've liked the cymbals to have a little more high end on there...they didn't seem to come through in the mix as well as the rest of the kit (maybe just some eq on those) ...

Otherwise, sounded great! :)
 
the drums are too loud and the snare could use a little more attack. try boosting in the 6khz area on the snare track. sounds like a pretty good mix altogether though
 
just listened on monitors. sounds pretty good zeke. only thing that stood out to me was the cymbals sound kind of like cheap cymbals but it's still better than a drum machine. i don't know anything about micing drums so keep that in mind but i've heard that the cymbals are the hardest to capture and require very expensive investments to get them right.
 
Nice drum sounds. Didnt like the cymbols but I assume the mics captured their sounds as they are. So 4 mics all you really need? Man that is good to hear, cause I think my new drummer is about as broke as me and I only need a few more mics. I know nothing about micing drums. Been doing the drum machine thang for the last year and Im ready to do real drums.......
Myx
 
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