my favorite country singers are the dead ones..

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hey all...been off here awhile but now im back in the saddle...newest chart topper done except i had to use a drum machine (my kit is at a freinds house)...and i cant get the vocals to sit in the mix better this is the 7th try at that so far....
.....song is "acid wash".....

http://www.nowhereradio.com/mynewhead/singles
 
First and Foremost

(1) Great song - I expect others will agree.
(2) boost gits at 2K...(subjective)
(3) boost vox at 2k...(subjective)
(4) ignore #2 and #3 and boost entire mix at 2K
(5) Major problem at around 2:28...when the panned git starts moving...it's about 20X louder than anything in the song or in a nuclear testing bunker.
(6) Really like the song.
(7) Ironing out some minor pitch problems on the vox in areas would do wonders to make 'em "sit" better.
(8) GREAT F&^%ING SONG!!!

make more,
-chris
 
I had problems with the streaming, but I usually do @ Nowhere when it is encoded at something higher than 160.


the tune is decent, but the mix sounds a bit small.. maybe chris's suggestions will help.. I don't like what the ride is doing.. Those guitars that come in towards the end are way too loud..

The tune was pretty good though..
 
Hey dude,

I must endorse Chris's mix comments and further the stated fact that this is a great song.

The backup vox are almost nonexistant in the mix. I'd push them up and, from a personal standpoint, I think they would be cool with a trippy flange effect to add texture to the tune. I think throwing in a couple other weird ass elements would go a ways in firming up the tune.

Just some goofy notions for you to read,

Peace,

Theron.
 
I was completely expecting a country song, so I was surprised when this one started up.

Nice song. I think the mix could come up a bit...the bass kind of got lost to me, and the drums seemed a little bit buried as well.

I think the vocals sound pretty good for the most part. The back-up vocals were a little bit low.

Overall good song and great playing. Maybe just adjusting the mix a bit and you are almost there -- imhop --

Nice job!
 
excellent....you all voiced alot of the same things i felt...

chris:..i dont know how to "boost "specific freq yet...but i did go back and fix (i think)..that panned guit part...and again it is extremely important for my psyche..that othher people think my stuff is as great as i do..lol thanks man

b-sab:...hey that could be yer new rap name..lol..i also re-mp-3ed..this at a lower bit rate..i hope that helps..i thought a higher rate would improve the sound quality but as i can tell only marginally...and i know this isnt yer kinda music so the fact that you sorta dug it is good anough for me..and the drums are a loop that is factory in my rec..when i get my kit back ill overdub all of that..

theron:...i was busy re-mixing this as you were listening to the first version..and i did affect the voc...im just worried about drowning them out..and again either you and i have a lot of the same taste in music or you are full of crap..lol...never a bad comment from you..thanks

boydrj:...sorry about the title...just trying to be funny...thanks for the tips..tho...ive said this before..i dont expect anyone to go back and listen to re-mixes that i do...but if you do i hope this sound is closer to what you all were saying...again thanks..

jamal
 
If only...

Man, I'll listen to that song on every version you wanna' post. It's a really good song, and it needs some help that I just can't articulate. It's not there yet, and to me, the drums aren't the problem (although that snare...hrm).

TRYIN' NOT TO USE OUR MAGIC UP!!! (cool bg vox..that's new, right?).

Sounds like you added some highs...and mids...and turned the vox up a tad...those are good things. Dammit, this is hard. I can't tell you what's missing...something is. I hate chorus on a lead vocal...makes people sound like they're singing in a closet.

The first two lines are truly great. The chorus is great. I dig the flange riff in the right speaker.

Oh, here's something...pan that rhythm guitar hard left and right...offset from each other a split hair. It sounds dead mono.

Christ...I really don't know beans about mixing yet. I know (READ AS "AM ABSOLUTELY SURE") that this song has the potential to be better than good. Don't settle for "good enough" on this one yet.

-chris
 
Good song,nice vocal performance!

The snare sound was the only thing that threw it off for me.
A little too loud and repetitive,not enough beef to it.IMHO

The rest sounds right there.

Guitars are the nuts.:D

Good writing.

Best to you,
Pete
 
I thought the tune was good. Sounds very contemporary to me and I thought the lyrics had some great images that actually took me back to a bunch of childhood memories I had more or less forgotten. Thanks for the ride there!

I'd have liked to hear your real drums, but the percussion track didn't bug me.

Heres a thought if you work in a DAW. When you have a couple of guitars on a track and you want to pan them but make 'em fatter try this. Copy each track to another. 2 gits=4 git tracks. Pan the originals hard left and right. Now take the copies and pan them a bit more toward the center, like 3 and 9 oclock. Now, shift those copies so they are delayed between 50 and 100 ms. And just mix them in enough to widen the guitar sounds. Sometimes it is a great effect.

Anyway, great tune! Thought your voice was perfect for this too.
 
One more thing...

While I still don't have anything helpful, I have a suggestion that would help me. Next time you post this (and I hope you do), chop off the first 1.5 seconds and the last 2 seconds of your wav file. I've had this tune on a constant loop for awhile and the edits are FRIGGIN' KILLIN' ME.

(Hey cool...it was worth checking this out again just to see how Crawdad gets his guitars to sound so great - taking more notes).

Keep going on this...man, those first 2 lines are...I don't use this word much..."genius-ish" (mostly b/c it ain't a word)...for some people, like me...(ie., a NON-GENIUS) because I do still remember how a quarter tastes inside a coffee cup.

Okay, here's why I'm still writing, I think. Brutal honesty time - The recording doesn't suck, but the song deserves better. Yeah, real drums will probably be an improvement (one that I won't even probably notice), but I think it's the vocal. I know what you're talking about with it not "sitting" right, but I don't think it's EQ or Level or Effect...it's the vocal track. If you're not happy with the next couple of versions, I'd recommend starting over from scratch on the vocal...Your voice is perfect for this, but you're just BARELY off pitch in some places...you've got a good ear, so it's buggin' ya'...that's why it's not sitting right.


STOPPING WITH THE CRITIQUEING NOW!!
-very cool song
 
jamal buchet said:
b-sab: i also re-mp-3ed..this at a lower bit rate..i hope that helps..i thought a higher rate would improve the sound quality but as i can tell only marginally
jamal
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hey jamal, try the LAME converter.. muzeman gave me the link and Waldo approved it.. It has a reliable enconding thing it does, and you can get better sound than 128. I don't have the link right now, but if you search google for ' LAME free encoder' you will find it.. muzeman gave me the link, maybe he'll see this and drop the link here..
 
cool song...
I kind of half read other comments (very unlike me... I usualy read'em all ... realy :) )

This is perfect example where the song is good ... performance is good ... (man... do I like when things are in time and the beat fits, I should be a drummer)
and though the sounds are not great but there is production and thought put into it (specialy guitar arangement) so in the end I realy enjoyed it...

everyone should take a notice how the snare is in relation to rithm guitar in the begining... this is what I call a "groove" um.. um.. tasty... :)

The vocal are a little "blured", also that first guitar on one side is little too far in headphones IMHO, you could bring it a little closer in.

Like someone said it would benefit from better sound but the song and performance are there and those are first in my book..
cheers
 
"...pretty sure a dollar's worth of gas will almost get us home."

Jamal, that's just one of many good lines in this song. Your singing is right on the money, and the canned drums didn't bother me at all. I like the way the track is laying, and cannot add anything to mix comments above.
Just wanted to cast another vote for this being a knockout of a song, excellent.

Mark
 
:D ok ok for the first time ever after reading all these comments..i actually feel like i could sorta do this as more that just a hobby...i cant tel you how fucking great it is to hear someone say that they "got"..what i was trying to say...now to the spec.

chris:,,man i think you have listened to this more that i have!!that is so cool tho..i think your absolutely right i need to re-do the vocals because i CAN hear them out a little..bnut in such a rush to get it posted....im sure YOUVE never done that right??lol..

muzeman:..ya i know its just a drum loop i used until i can play them myself...they are pretty repetative..thanks so much for diggin it tho..(i knda think the guitar is the nuts too)...lol

crawdad:...i gotta say that your one of my favorite"artists"..on hear so for you to have liked it enough to comment definately qualifies this as a print off page for me..i bet ive played "moguls of malibu"..for 9 or10 of my freinds.."yeah i know guys you like my stuff..but listen to this crawdad character"...

b-sab:..i think i have the lame encoderor wait cdex something is that it??..

fed :you too are one who seemed to have a good handle on things when i first started coming on here..so again thanks for some of your time as well...im not a very good guitarist at all and it took probably 75 times to get that "falling guitar riff in the chorus right...but i think it was worth it...

mkg:..the fact that you got part of it is all i wanted to accomplish..i really set out with the idea of what i rem from 17 18 yrsl old..how many times did i pull up to the pump and get 2 bucks in gas....usually in change as well..lol

zelmo:..thanks for the listen im glad it caught yer ears for a few minutes..just a big ol' work in progress i guess..but hey it beats welding any day lol..

thanks again guys im sure ill have another version or so in a week or two...

jamal(head sufficiently swelled)...
 
From a writing standpoint, this song is rock solid. The intro was a bit longer than it needed to be (it therefore takes you longer to get to the hook). But that's minor. I too REALLY liked the song - lyrics, music, you name it.

The lead vocals have that "almost as if you're singing behind a closed door" effect. I think a double tracked lead vocal would be nice on this song, but it won't help with the "closed door" thing. You may want to spend some time testing out different mic positions to get a bit more definition to them.

I really liked the song from a style and writing standpoint. Terrific job.
 
i was expecting a country song too!!! he he

hey man, good stuff!!!!!

the only thing that struck me as odd, was at about the 3 sec mark. the drums did something funny?? it was like the snare was prematurely cut off, or to much of a pause or something??????
or maybe it was a streaming problem?? im a big help:rolleyes: jeesh!!!!!!

good tune man!!!!!! thanks

peace

rick
 
Clean man clean...
Did you write this? Great lyrics!!
I like that little lead line that runs on the right during the choruses. I like the axe sounds and you have a great voice.
 
uh-huh

Shoving this to the top of the page before I go out of town...I think it's getting better, and I hope you guys give him a ton of input. Cool song.

--the pragmatist
 
just wanted to say I read chrisharris coment on vocal... and I agree that it's just a hair off and that's probably what is bugging you... make sure you post when you get real drums...
cheers
 
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