Papanate
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I didn’t notice it at the time But I think I just shifted the vocals without listening to the guitar - that is embarrassing as all get out.
Here is the corrected one.
Here is the corrected one.
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R D Smith
It's as good as it is, for as long as it lasts.
That sounds pretty good Rich, a lot of reverb on the vocal. It doesn't sound like you did any EQ on the guitar.
I took the same files I sent you and Papa and did my own quick and dirty mix using just the Reaper plugins. What I came up with is similar to yours with less reverb. I didn't EQ the guitar but there is a little reverb on the guitar and vocal. I also EQ'd the vocal.
Papa, the vocal doesn't really sound like me and the backing vocals sound out of tune with the lead vocal. Is something still not quite right?
Papanate
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I AI’d a vocal in there - but now have turned it down - is this more of what you like? - tell me what you think?
TalismanRich
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I can dial back the reverb. There is some EQ on the guitar, but I didn't pump up the high end, just about 3dB. There was also a bit of a "boom" right at 100 cycles, like you hit the top or something. Anyway, I put a notch there and that seemed to tame it. This is the curve I used on the left guitar. Right side was similar.
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R D Smith
It's as good as it is, for as long as it lasts.
That's better. Not sure about the AI stuff, I'll have to listen a couple time to let it sink in.
Thanks for posting the EQ graph Rich. On my original mix, I rolled the guitar off at 91 hz and that kind off killed it or made it not oblivious I also had a noise at 2285 hz that I couldn't figure out so I notched it. Did you do any EQ on the vocal?
TalismanRich
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I didn't do too much on the vocals. I had a slight rise of a couple dB from about 2K up.
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R D Smith
It's as good as it is, for as long as it lasts.
Ok, the AI stuff didn't sound right. Turning it down helped.
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R D Smith
It's as good as it is, for as long as it lasts.
I learned a lot from this mixing exercise. Thanks to @TalismanRich and @Papanate for taking the time to help out. Rich also took the time to record some different takes with his NT1 that he PM'd me. That was helpful.
The biggest take away was when I saved the stem files with no plugins. All of the fixes on the vocals specifically, went away. I was listening back to the files and I had forgot about the timing, levels, tuning, etc that was fixed and massaged in the plugin. I took the time to cut and paste out better parts of track to fix as many of the problem areas as possible before I sent them. It still isn't perfect, but a lot better than it was originally.
After all work fixing the vocal manually, I decided to replace original vocal with the fixed vocal stem in my original mix. and then go from there. I'm running it through the same fx chain minus the melodine. I also added a little more vocal reverb similar to what Rich did. I also added reverb to the guitar.
The biggest take away was when I saved the stem files with no plugins. All of the fixes on the vocals specifically, went away. I was listening back to the files and I had forgot about the timing, levels, tuning, etc that was fixed and massaged in the plugin. I took the time to cut and paste out better parts of track to fix as many of the problem areas as possible before I sent them. It still isn't perfect, but a lot better than it was originally.
After all work fixing the vocal manually, I decided to replace original vocal with the fixed vocal stem in my original mix. and then go from there. I'm running it through the same fx chain minus the melodine. I also added a little more vocal reverb similar to what Rich did. I also added reverb to the guitar.
