MSH4 on Acoustic Guitar

[XLR]

MSH4 on Acoustic Guitar - Blues w/bass and drums

Blues w/guitars only

MadAudio on drums, lbanks on bass.
I'm doing the two acoustic guitar parts.

Tim

 

[solo.guitar]

Sounds real good. Did you do any EQ or anything on the guitars?

 

[timboZ]

What................No cowbell.

Sounds sweet..................

 

[XLR]

Solo.guitar and timboZ – Thanks. Only EQ was a little low end roll-off of the rhythm guitar. It’s a very lightly strung guitar… .009’s.

Tim

 

[solo.guitar]

Ah ok.

Sounds real good, very detailed.

How does it compare to the MSH1-A (or whatever it's called now) for acoustic guitar? I'm definately considering ordering a matched pair once I get a new soundcard.

 

[BitchyKitty]

That sounds great!!

 

[Fancy]

Yep. Sounds good here too.

 

[kojdogg]

that sounds awesome-- great playing timothy as on your other msh mic clips. did madaudio use the msh-4 for any of the drums? i recall him posting a clip he did singing and playing acoustic guitar through one that also sounded really good.
thanks

 

[CoolCat]

I was just sitting here doing some laundry without my socks on.

good clean track, sounds great.

yeah what was the gear chain? you know the gang around hear wants to know the gear you used. hehe

anyway, sounds like some fun tracks.

Maybe you could add like Yoko Ono type vocals to it?

 

[XLR]

solo.guitar – Comparing the 4 and the O (formerly called the 1A) - just a different tone. The O is clean… the 4 is just a little nasty but in a good way. Re EQ, if you got the “msh4band” file right when I posted the thread the two guitars were EQ’d with a 2 dB boost at 350 Hz. Then I switched it with the un-EQd file I had meant to use.

BitchyKitty, Fancy, kojdogg – I appreciate it. kojdogg… don’t know what MadAudio used. Maybe he'll show up and say.

Coolcat – Chain was Great River pre to Lucid converter, small room, mic 10 inches from neck/body joint. Still without socks after the “World Adds Noise” thread, huh? Dryers are demonic man. No Yoko type vocal on this one … gummblefish did a great vocal but I’ve only done a rough mix of the first verse.

Tim

 

[jgld]

snds good on my office desktop speakers. whats diferent besides the kind of gtr from teh last msh4 clip you posted? playing was good on both but this sonds better to me

j

 

[MadAudio]

did madaudio use the msh-4 for any of the drums?

Unfortunately, no. If I had been thinking, I would've set up a couple of MSH-10s as room mics, but I didn't.

Kick - EV RE20
Snare - Beyer M201
Rack toms - SM57s
Floor Tom - Audio Technica ATM25
OH - pair of MXL 603s in an X/Y config.

 

[ofajen]

MSH4 on Acoustic Guitar - Blues w/bass and drums

Blues w/guitars only

MadAudio on drums, lbanks on bass.
I'm doing the two acoustic guitar parts.

Tim

Good tone, good playing. I like to mike with omnis on guitar, too. When I listen on my system, I hear a good deal of background hiss and noise. I expect considerable noise from those small capsules. Is it perhaps made worse by the MP3 encoding? Did you use some downward compression of the peaks?

Otto

 

[Paj]

The things that I liked about the MSH4 when I tried it on (steel-string) acoustic:

(1) Ridiculously bad placements yeilded very good results

(2) The tracks sounded like what I was hearing when I played them

(3) Definite tube character to the sound (thicker sound than the 1-O)

(4) Hotter signal than the 1-O

(5) Reminded me of a brighter version of an MXL V67 on vocals

(6) Cute as a button and cost next to nuthin' . . .


Paj
8^)

 

[scrubs]

(6) Cute as a button and cost next to nuthin' . . .

If only there were more women like this.

 

[Paj]

If only there were more women like this.

(Cute as a button and cost next to nuthin' . . .)


. . .it's the second part that's the killer . . .

Paj
8^)

 

[XLR]

...background hiss and noise. ...Did you use some downward compression of the peaks?

Otto, I double checked my settings just now... only thing was a bit of L2 on the mix, hitting peaks every few seconds with approx 2 dB gain reduction.

Next I just checked the original 24/44.1 wav files and that's where it got interesting. Though the mic was properly warmed up and undisturbed I'm hearing different amounts of noise on different takes, ranging from near silence to steady hiss above 3 kHz. For instance, the lick at the very end has the hiss go way up, sounding kind of like a compressor releasing, but there wasn't compression... it was an edit from a previous take that had more hiss. I even heard a little bit of radio picked up in one spot. Looks like I need a power conditioner. Or a studio exorcism.

Tim

 

[XLR]

snds good on my office desktop speakers. whats diferent besides the kind of gtr from teh last msh4 clip you posted? playing was good on both but this sonds better to me

j

Thanks jgld. I think closer mic placement suited the mic better in this one.

Tim

 

[mshilarious]

Looks like I need a power conditioner. Or a studio exorcism.

Nah, it's the mic. The 4 is pretty sensitive to interference. I'm actively looking for solutions, if I come up with anything I might be able to retrofit.

 

[XLR]

The 4 is pretty sensitive to interference.

Well, this is rough rootsy blues so a little microphone tube mojo is good, even with a little demonic possession elec interference thrown in. I'll just have to make a tiny aluminum foil helmet for the mic.

Tim