MSH 2s on guitar...

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Hey guys, just got my MS 2s in the mail. I've never had to mic an acoustic with 2 SDCs and was wondering where I should position them. Any help would be appreciated.
 
since they're omnis, you don't really have to avoid any boomy spots. try one 1-2 foot out from the 12th fret and one over your shoulder above the bridge. experiment! record a bunch of configurations and compare. it probably won't hurt getting in close too.
 
I used my MSH1's on acoutstic, and all I did was have them pointed at the guitar, about 2 feet away. One sort of at the soundhole, the other more towards the neck. Turned out ok.....I need to experiment more, but they sound good.
 
Thanks guys, I'll try over shoulder. My first attempt wasn't great...I think new strings and the right plectrum will make a big difference.
 
new strings will definitely make the hugest difference in the world

personally, i've always used a spaced pair for stereo recordings of acoustic guitar...there's a million ways to do it of course, but i like the imaging and general "fullness" that spaced pairs give

i usually stick one mic on the body, 18-24" back...i like to point this mic generally in the area between the bridge and soundhole, somewhere between 30-45 degrees off axis

then i stick a mic on the neck...same difference, also a bit off-axis. again...maybe not the best placement, especially w/ omnis, but it's always worked well for me
 
omnis seem to be pretty forgiving with bad mic placement. or do i just suck?
 
TelePaul said:
Hey guys, just got my MS 2s in the mail. I've never had to mic an acoustic with 2 SDCs and was wondering where I should position them. Any help would be appreciated.
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Here's a sound test a guy did with two MSH-1s in a Jecklin array:
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=253412

Here's a good primer on Jeckln Disk with two omnis. You could also Google the technique for more info. I will be trying this myself sometime in the near future.

http://www.josephson.com/tn5.html

You might also check into Blumlien and Decca Tree techniques.
 
I position one at the 17th fret about 4 inches away and another at about the 7th fret. I always monitor in mono to make sure it sounds good. That placement has always worked best for me for an upfront, detailed acoustic sound.

If your guitar sounds really good you shouldn't have too much of a problem. Mine lacks a lot of low end so I mike up close not too far from the sound hole and it gives it more 'natural' bass to it.

Just have to be careful to not get too close especially if you're playing loud. It can make it boomy and at worst damage the mic if it's right in front of the sound hole.
 
TheHunter said:
Sound Clip

Spaced pair, at 12th fret and at the bridge about 12~14" away, hard panned both left and right.
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I believe that your excellent playing has skewed the testing results of that recording. I will have to wait with a recording with crappy guitarsmanship before I can make any assumptions.
 
where did you record that clip hunter? or did you add reverb?
 
TheHunter said:
Sound Clip

Spaced pair, at 12th fret and at the bridge about 12~14" away, hard panned both left and right.
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Sounds good. I hear some good room sound but also what sounds like a lot of (good) reverb added? Or am I wrong? Either way, sounds good.
 
kessel said:
where did you record that clip hunter? or did you add reverb?
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I recorded in my bedroom..not acoustic treated.. Yes I added a reverb. If someone is interested I can post the dry clip.
 
TheHunter said:
I recorded in my bedroom..not acoustic treated.. Yes I added a reverb. If someone is interested I can post the dry clip.
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Toirleac O' Carolan??
 
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