MR-8 song perfect, but then too soft when moved to PC

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The levels that I record a track of stereo acoustic guitar and a track of stereo vocals sound great when I record them on my MR-8 and then bounce them to tracks 7+8/convert to a wav file, but when I transfer them to my PC, the sound level goes waaaaay down to where I have to practically max the volume on my speakers.
How can I fix this?
Thanks.
 
What are you using as monitors when you are recording? Headphones? Check to see where the volume of your headphone jack is at. If you have it turned up you are not getting a true picture of the volumes you are recording at. I usually have the volume on mine turned to about 10 o'clock. And watch the meters on the MR-8 when you are recording. Make sure the trim level on the inputs is as high as you can get it without clipping (when the red light flashes), and that you are getting as close to 0db as you can when you are recording.
Another thing you may want to look at is using software to mix. Try ntrack or one of the other ones that are popular. You can do a search on here and come up with a dozen or so recomendations. And download Wave Manager from the Fostex website and transfer your tracks one at a time to your pc and import them into the software. Don't bounce them down before you transfer them, because you will not be able to edit the bounced tracks.
Good luck, I hope I was able to help you.
 
low volume

If your recording levels are at low db levels that's what you'll be sending to the pc. Like rokket said, Record your tracks to as close to 0db as possible without clipping. And mixing software can help with gain changes or adjustments if needed.
 
pjh6467 said:
If your recording levels are at low db levels that's what you'll be sending to the pc. Like rokket said, Record your tracks to as close to 0db as possible without clipping. And mixing software can help with gain changes or adjustments if needed.
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You can get away with mixing it on the MR-8, but I find it's much better to make sure that I tracked everything right and transfer the tracks to my pc for mixing. The software that is available can do some amazing things once you get used to it. Editing is easy, the tracks are layed out so you can see the wave forms, and you can mute tracks to listen to others, something that gets hard when you bounce them down on the little red machine.
I am not trying to push you toward getting something you may not want, just letting you know what's out there.
And I hope you solved your problem.
 
low volume

I don't recall my post saying anything about mixing on the mr8.
 
pjh6467 said:
I don't recall my post saying anything about mixing on the mr8.
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That's what you are doing in essence if you bounce the tracks to 7/8 and convert them to .wav....

EDIT: It's what he was doing when he realized his levels were low, and I was just offering up the suggestion in case he didn't want to use software to mix. There are some who do everything on the MR-8 and record it to wave via the line in on their soundcard and the stereo outs on the MR-8 with good results.
I wasn't suggesting you said anything about mixing on the MR-8...
 
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can you tell its all about gain structure....unity....

run as hot as possible into a mixer without clipping, and you MUST use the trim on the mr8 also, some people are saying to bypass the trim but you are defeating the purpose of using a mixer.... after mixer mix is hot as possible , turn trim up til ut clips, back it down so theere is no lght flashing

then on the pc, must add compression and limiing if youwant it to be even close to the volume of a commercially produced cd
 
Your right rokket

Your right rokket. I did imply that in my post. I though he had multiple tracks bounced already and wanted to get them to cd, but it was only 2. So wav manager would be a much better solution. Sorry, had a bad week.Not reading posts properly. My bad. Pj
 
if you bounce to 7 and 8

then you are mixing on the mr8, your not using a preamp or mixer are, you.....
 
This occurs for me most of the time. What I do is to use normalization software on the PC end to correct the level problems. I use Power Tracks Pro, which inlcudes the normalization software as part of the package.

Thgis process makes is much easier to get the volumes of the different tracks recorded at different times to match well for the mix down process.

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that will help

but its really designd to make different songs an a cd the same volume not for use on individual tracks.... besides if you do it RIGHT you will have Good volume, then after proper home mastering, if done right can be almost to commercial cd level
 
pjh6467 said:
Your right rokket. I did imply that in my post. I though he had multiple tracks bounced already and wanted to get them to cd, but it was only 2. So wav manager would be a much better solution. Sorry, had a bad week.Not reading posts properly. My bad. Pj
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Not a problem....:D


We all are entitled to have bad days.



I personally suffer from hedupus rectum syndrome! :eek:
 
hahah cellerdweller

did something go wrong, it should work... without any real ill effects, just imaginative engineering, taking something designed for one thing and adapting it to your spcific needs.... did it effect the mix in some way??????
 
Would you say using the Trim on the MR-8 detracts from the signal? Or are you sacrificing signal when you bypass the trim?
 
Marcellovalerio said:
Would you say using the Trim on the MR-8 detracts from the signal? Or are you sacrificing signal when you bypass the trim?
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The trim knob just adjusts the signal to either line or mic input, it's not actually a volume knob.... If you are inputing a line signal, turn it all the way to line, turn up the volume of what you are inputing, then adjust the trim toward mic until it clips and back it off. Then you will have a usable signal. You can't actually turn the pre amps "off" , per se, you are simply adjusting it from line to mic input...


Dave, did I get this right? Or am I talking out my ass? :confused:
 
thats right , strongest possible clean signal is the goal....

it will be worth it...
 
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