Hey Jim...no offence taken man. Like I said, I have never been a RTFM person and I knew your comments weren't directed at me. That's why I didn't really bother to reply at first. (Let me also say that even when negative comments ARE directed at me I am not the kind to get all offended and start flaming. I listen to what people have to say, look at it from all angles, try to see the truth, try to see the falsehood, and try to learn from it all. Those of you who know me here know I am one for spirited discussion and the sharing of thoughts and philosophies, not flaming wars.)
Jim, I understand where your coming from...I have frequently had threads hit me the wrong way at the wrong time and I have wanted to reach through the screen and strangle someone. I agreed with alot of what you said, just not that this is a useless forum here (I know you meant the poll tongue in cheek). Let me also say that there are one or two people here that DO go to the RTFM card a bit too much in my opinion, but in the same way I keep quiet about "I don't want to read the manual" posts, I keep quiet about the RTFM ones as well.
I decided to respond to help Ed understand what was going on. I flet like he was kind of like a first timer to Manhattan who is about to step out into the street and not realise he is about to get nailed by taxi's flying by.
Ed, I had to type my message quickly at work so I apologize if it wasn't clear. I never said that you said it was a worthless forum, I was responding to Jim's poll and/or opinion of the forum. I think lots of people have been helped here. Also I understand that your problem was related to WaveLab and not Cubase, but this same issue has come up many many times before (just not to this magnitude) and since it is a Cubase forum I was using that as the reference.
Much like Jim, I worked with the manual and Cubase and got myself up and running. If I occationally run into a bump that the manual just doesn't help with (hasn't happened yet) then I will ask questions. Most my posts are asking for peoples opinions about equiptment, or trying to help people out here. What I was trying to point out Ed, is that people can get frustrated when someone new posts here and they post a question that can quickly and easily be found by a little looking on the part of the poster...much quicker than it takes to type the question and wait for someone to take time to respond. I told you my example and I was personally a bit offended that someone would think so little of other peoples time as to have that attitude. I think two of your statements back this up:
"My problem was not a matter of reading the manual or not."
and
"Well, the guy made me feel so damn guilty, I had to look in the manual, and the procedure was so simple that I posted it myself, ..."
This was my point. I don't think your a crack user. I don't think your a bad guy. I don't think you deserved the berating you got, but I am trying to explain why you may have gotten it. (RE: Crack Users: Neil posted one of the wisest things in all of this...the downloadable manuals make it impossible to counter crack users with a page number anymore. We had a member who used to use that all the time and it would really get the crack users pissy)
Anyhow Ed, yes I have had a new toy and wanted to play with it really bad. When I couldn't get it to work I used the manual. I know not everyone is like me. But after finding myself spending hours trying to help others out of some sense of loyalty to the website and Cubase, I found I was spending too much time here and so now I have to be more choosy about who I answer. Any post that starts with "I looked in the manual but couldn't find" or "The manual isn't clear on this" I will always do my best to help out if there is any way I can (so now you all know the secret
). I guess it's a bit of the "Give a man a fish vs. Teach a man to fish" philosophy. All my first post was trying to do is let you know why (I am assuming of course I do not know what was in Rokers head) you may have been met with a less than friendly response.
I am sorry that you were met with this response because I like friendly forums where people can share ideas and info and respect each other and everyone gets along and learns. If I can't post an answer that reflects those ideals then I just remain silent and don't post.
Neil: There was no winning or losing that discussion my friend, just sharing ideas and philosophies
I hope this was clear...after rereading it all, and all of this thread I think it may be quicker just to answer the basic question posts after all, lol
Good luck and I hope everyone is making awesome music!
