Most controversial mic pre thread ever?

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Aaah, as I thought...this thread and the $189 EH pre with it's enigmatic internal tattoo have come together to inspire us, humanity, to champion the points of art vs. money vs. politics vs. survival vs. Starbucks vs. the fancy good Mr. Dave Matthews. I had a feeling this stamp would raise the roof.

Now, here's a question for thought. Is it so that a consumer (maybe an artist himself) can pay an artist a concert fee and expect that only the approved songs can be performed? That only the commonly acceptable monologues can be displayed (ever been to an old Prince concert?)? Can she expect to only hear the songs about love and fishing, the things the consumer believes in? Is art not a reflection of life? Are some of those reflections from an artist, be they in song form yet or not, just that, a reflection? I pose this thought not in anger or protest, just as a thought ;-) Heck, when I pay $60 to hear "the poopypants remix concert" I'd like not to get 3 hours of "lettuce is bad for ferrets" and 4 minutes of "poopypants" but where's the gauge for this one? Anyone? Long live poopypants!

Some of the best musicians of our time have given me great music and disgusted me as human beings all at once. I remember when I was 13 I went to a Buddy Rich concert. After the show I was able to go out to his bus for an autograph. In the 50 seconds I was in the bus i was able to ascertain that this guy was an absolute ass to people. The way he talked to some of the kids in front of me and another adult on the bus just nailed that case closed. I found out years later that this was often his demeanor. But, Good Lord, what a gift! What a great show! What a great performance! I guess it's kind of like how you go to the same barber for a few years because of his amazing skill and thoughtful insight into your lovelife and the repair of your 1979 volvo wagon only to have him one day, on a perfectly good Saturday with sunshine and everything, make some racist remark that forever destroys his total worth to you. What a drag! Such talent. Such wisdom! I've heard many comments from the pulpit of art that were not requested. Heck, I've heard some songs from artists I love that I thought sucked as well. If those same artists only wrote what they should write instead of what they were passionate about we might as well all live in elevators. Heck, I'm a huge Opponent of first person shooter rap (I like some rap, though. Bad times? Report it don't propel it, I say.) just like I don't buy White Supremacy records. I think they do more harm than good. But, I guess somebody feels it deep in their heart regardless whether or not I subscribe to it and wish it didn't exist. CursEd artists always mixing up art and income. It's hard to find a soapbox without somekind of sneaker ad or campaign sticker on it. I guess we all gotta believe in somethin'. Trick is, when can we say it? Should we hold it in 'til we get out of the place where it might travel the farthest, be heard the most. Heck, I don't know. I just wanna get this thing racked.

And that's the way it might is, Wednesday December the 1st, 2005
Happy Birthday, sis!

McKay Garner
Bounce Inventive Audio
Los Angeles
 
bounce said:
Now, here's a question for thought.

the way i look at it is this: if i want to hear political propaganda, people on a soapbox preaching about who i oughta vote for, etc., i will go to a republican't or demokratik rally. when i go to a MUSIC concert, i expect to hear MUSIC.

now, if the *songs* are political in nature (dylan, joni mitchell, etc), one would think that as a paying customer and fan enough of the music to shell out $$$ for a ticket, i would be aware of that and *expect* to hear political themes in the music. but still, i don't want to hear a 10 minute treatise on a candidate, or about a war, or about greenhouse gases, etc, in between songs. and i love me some dylan.

you see.....as a listener, i like music to take me AWAY from the nonsense that's going on in my everyday life.....not to keep bringing it up.

i don't mind ANY type of music--i think it all has a place. i'll listen to country and gangsta rap back to back......but i think that if you don't think that country and gangsta rap aren't helping perpetuate the problems in their respective communities, you're mistaken. but i live in neither of those communities, so i don't really care. :D


FWIW, the only place i consider an "acceptable" soapbox in the context of a concert is at Farm Aid. :p

regardless, i think these sorts of shenanigans by a company like this are juvenile at best, and i have no desire to support them with my money. some might think they're great, and this will drive them to buy the unit. thank neil peart for freedom of will. :D


cheers,
wade
 
I think if I wanted my product to be political, in that vein, I would put moveon.org or something on the outside of the product. That's a bit less junior high school.
 
This thread needs 35% more controversy if it doesn't want to be sued for misrepresentation.
 
mshilarious said:
I think if I wanted my product to be political, in that vein, I would put moveon.org or something on the outside of the product. That's a bit less junior high school.

LOL

not to mention, in 5 years, "Buck Fush" will simply be a coded reminder to straight guys who don't get laid all that often and forget how to do it. :D


cheers,
wade
 
Funny. This thread has turned into "tube vs. a solid State." hee hee. Anyone want to take the other angle and start in on "Elvis?"

You guys rule.

We just need 35% more controversy.
Maybe I should take one of my mics apart?

McKay
 
Something tells me if Elvis were President, we wouldn't have these controversies.


Wait a minute, maybe he IS really running the country. :eek: :cool:
 
Bounce,

I'm not a big fan of transformerless tube gear, but I like what EH has done by using full plate voltage, unlike many others. Because they went the extra mile, I might purchase one.

BTW, what kinda caps are under the hood?
 
Heya, CCS, I'll try to check that for ya. Hey, Joel, do you mind me asking what tubes you ended up having good luck with when swapping out the EH ones? I was also wondering if it brought the noise floor down? Thanks!

McKay Garner
Bounce Inventive Audio
Los Angeles
 
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