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Karambui
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i Guys ! I wounder which of the following programs ( latest versions of each one mentioned ) Cubase SX , Logic Audio, Samplitude would you call more professional.
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manning1
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alternatives
those are all good, but i'll let you in on a little secret.
check out magix audio studio v7 at 49 bucks. looks just like samp.
plus you get a fully featured midi sequencer with 1000 tracks i think it is thrown in.
also before making adecision to spend more money check out these other superb products - all under 100 dollars. if you dont believe me talk to users in the forums.
powetracks at 29 dollars. midi plus 48 digital audio tracks.
ntrack , superb - 60 dollars.
multitrackstudio.com - a magnificent effort.
and tracktion.
also there is the free audacity multitracker. includes lots of free effects. dont be put off by the low prices. you can do fully pro
multitrack productions in any of these. the most important criteria now in a studio is a good set of mics and preamps and a clean sound card. all thesoftware now is very good.
often its more what you find easier to use.
those are all good, but i'll let you in on a little secret.
check out magix audio studio v7 at 49 bucks. looks just like samp.
plus you get a fully featured midi sequencer with 1000 tracks i think it is thrown in.
also before making adecision to spend more money check out these other superb products - all under 100 dollars. if you dont believe me talk to users in the forums.
powetracks at 29 dollars. midi plus 48 digital audio tracks.
ntrack , superb - 60 dollars.
multitrackstudio.com - a magnificent effort.
and tracktion.
also there is the free audacity multitracker. includes lots of free effects. dont be put off by the low prices. you can do fully pro
multitrack productions in any of these. the most important criteria now in a studio is a good set of mics and preamps and a clean sound card. all thesoftware now is very good.
often its more what you find easier to use.
Teacher
New member
Samplitude...
its an audio program with midi while the others are the other way around...
its an audio program with midi while the others are the other way around...
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faderbug
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Re: alternatives
i have a little secret too : audio studio LOOKS exactly like samplitude but SOUNDS like shit.
get the real stuff!!!!
i'm a samplitude guy by the way since i don't do a lot of midi and sam is by far the best audio multitracker/editer around.
manning1 said:
i have a little secret too : audio studio LOOKS exactly like samplitude but SOUNDS like shit.
get the real stuff!!!!
i'm a samplitude guy by the way since i don't do a lot of midi and sam is by far the best audio multitracker/editer around.
Chris Tondreau
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Never having used the others, I'll throw in a vote for Cubase. The new SX2 is decidedly rockin'!
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manning1
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wetteke
wetteke - Huh ? , magix audio studio sounds bad ?
thats news to me. please give me reasons why . i know a lot of folks very happy with it. and getting good sound.
i dont hear it doing anything to the sound.
but i'm prepared to be proved wrong. please go into more details.
wetteke - Huh ? , magix audio studio sounds bad ?
thats news to me. please give me reasons why . i know a lot of folks very happy with it. and getting good sound.
i dont hear it doing anything to the sound.
but i'm prepared to be proved wrong. please go into more details.
Chris Shaeffer
Peavey ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As far as professional- meaning used in professional studios...
I really don't know as I only work in 1 studio and it uses Pro Tools.
But my impression is that of the 3 you mentioned Logic is the only one with widespread professional use. Cubase SX sees some professional use, but takes second seat to its larger brother, Nuendo.
Just my impressions, really. That could just mean that Logic and Nuendo have better *marketing*.
Take care,
Chris
I really don't know as I only work in 1 studio and it uses Pro Tools.
But my impression is that of the 3 you mentioned Logic is the only one with widespread professional use. Cubase SX sees some professional use, but takes second seat to its larger brother, Nuendo.
Just my impressions, really. That could just mean that Logic and Nuendo have better *marketing*.
Take care,
Chris
Simman
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Re: Re: alternatives
I have both...never really noticed that one "sounds" better than the other.
I may have to try a “side-by-side” comparison….you maybe right. Nonetheless, given the choices, I do like samplitude.
wetteke said:
I have both...never really noticed that one "sounds" better than the other.
I may have to try a “side-by-side” comparison….you maybe right. Nonetheless, given the choices, I do like samplitude.
lost studios
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If Cubase, Logic Audio, and Samplitude are the only choices... I've used all three and am a fan of Samplitude. Don't forget Nuendo and Sonar 3!! They are both amazing as well.
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Stealthtech
LOGIC ABUSER
Keep in mind that your audio interface and its A/D D/A converters will be the biggest factor in the quality of the audio.
The software offers more or less flexability and options.
I've used Logic for many years and prefer it over all others for its extensive options and excellent native plug-ins.
The software offers more or less flexability and options.
I've used Logic for many years and prefer it over all others for its extensive options and excellent native plug-ins.
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shAkEz_gk
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I myself, have always used CE2, its user friendly, and Ive got it down pat.
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Beltrom
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Stealthtech said:
Stability and how bug-ridden the software is are factors to consider though...
(just expanding your point Stealtech - not contradicting))
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faderbug
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Re: Re: Re: alternatives
i do a lot of over-the-top editing (extreme stretching ... ) and then you start hearing the difference in quality, where audiostudio starts producing artefacts sam stays silent and true to the original.
also sam supports vst/vsti, has more and better quality onboard effects ,more complete midi-implementation, automated optimalisation to your system, full driver support,...
after all there has to be a reason for the difference in price ($50-$1000!)
Simman said:I have both...never really noticed that one "sounds" better than the other.
I may have to try a “side-by-side” comparison….you maybe right. Nonetheless, given the choices, I do like samplitude.
i do a lot of over-the-top editing (extreme stretching ... ) and then you start hearing the difference in quality, where audiostudio starts producing artefacts sam stays silent and true to the original.
also sam supports vst/vsti, has more and better quality onboard effects ,more complete midi-implementation, automated optimalisation to your system, full driver support,...
after all there has to be a reason for the difference in price ($50-$1000!)
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manning1
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therefore
its only in extreme times tretching. all my friends never do that.
i still say a quality sound card and good pre's are more important than expensive software. especially as new software comes out
so rapidly in revisions. spending 1000 dollars on a piece of software is difficult to justify. as to the vst issue. while a good mic or pre will last a very long time. the current
effects and compressors and parametric and graphic eq's plus
dx plug in support ive seen in audio studio plus the very well kitted midi laden sequencer is i think is plenty for most peoples needs. ive also heard the free audacity multitrack and that sounds very very good to my ears. its the sound card that imparts the sound quality not the software imho.
its only in extreme times tretching. all my friends never do that.
i still say a quality sound card and good pre's are more important than expensive software. especially as new software comes out
so rapidly in revisions. spending 1000 dollars on a piece of software is difficult to justify. as to the vst issue. while a good mic or pre will last a very long time. the current
effects and compressors and parametric and graphic eq's plus
dx plug in support ive seen in audio studio plus the very well kitted midi laden sequencer is i think is plenty for most peoples needs. ive also heard the free audacity multitrack and that sounds very very good to my ears. its the sound card that imparts the sound quality not the software imho.
Simman
Well-known member
Re: therefore
While $1000.00 for a software package might be hard for you (I gave it some thought myself) to justify, the original question was which program(s) (of the list) where more "professional". Therefore, I would say that $1K isn't too bad.
manning1 said:
While $1000.00 for a software package might be hard for you (I gave it some thought myself) to justify, the original question was which program(s) (of the list) where more "professional". Therefore, I would say that $1K isn't too bad.
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charger
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I've used demos of everything out there recently. I have to say most "professional" I've seen is Samplitude. Not only does it have a gorgeous, mutable UI, but it does anything and everything you can think of. For example, not only can you use a track-based approach to plugins, but you can apply plugins separately to "objects," e.g. apply an EQ plugin to one clip on a track. It's just way out there.
Logic Audio is the old school standard for MIDI production studios. The audio was tacked on later, and it still has that "audio/afterthought" feel to me. Also, it's hard for me to consider a DAW app "professional" when it's only supported for Mac.
Cubase SX still feels cheaper than it costs to me.
Logic Audio is the old school standard for MIDI production studios. The audio was tacked on later, and it still has that "audio/afterthought" feel to me. Also, it's hard for me to consider a DAW app "professional" when it's only supported for Mac.
Cubase SX still feels cheaper than it costs to me.
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bleyrad
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Nuendo probably tops the "professional" list, but it damn well should for that price. Most people put Pro Tools TDM in the same category, but I think that Nuendo's a little bit better. That's only personal opinion of course.
Samplitude is a great program but I wouldn't call it "professional" by any stretch of the word. Sequoia is their pro product.
Also check out Radar if you want a pro system
Samplitude is a great program but I wouldn't call it "professional" by any stretch of the word. Sequoia is their pro product.
Also check out Radar if you want a pro system
Teacher
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bleyrad said:
and you say that based on what? price? Sequoia and samplitude are virtually the same beast except sequoia has four point editing, which from what i heard is only really useful in a post production environment...seqouia is a more complete package but for tracking and mixing not much different...
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bleyrad
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I guess it's more where it's marketed at: the semi-pro project studio type setting.
Samp is a wonderful program, but like you said, it's not as complete of a product. Professional-marketed products tend to be more all-encompassing.
All this said, I will probably be buying either Samplitude or Cubase SX within the next few months. I'm most used to Nuendo from some work at a local studio so SX is the more obvious choice, but Samp's price point is a bit better value.
I don't think you'd see many top-of-the-line studios even consider Samplitude for their main DAW rig, whereas many are already starting to switch from PT to Nuendo. Samp's simply not considered to be up there with the big boys.
Samp is a wonderful program, but like you said, it's not as complete of a product. Professional-marketed products tend to be more all-encompassing.
All this said, I will probably be buying either Samplitude or Cubase SX within the next few months. I'm most used to Nuendo from some work at a local studio so SX is the more obvious choice, but Samp's price point is a bit better value.
I don't think you'd see many top-of-the-line studios even consider Samplitude for their main DAW rig, whereas many are already starting to switch from PT to Nuendo. Samp's simply not considered to be up there with the big boys.
trogdor
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For me, cubase is by far the most intuitive and easiest to forego the ritualistic reading of the manual... just jump right in!