Mono to stereo

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sweetnubs said:
naaah, you gotta initally record both left and right information and then pan that information left and right. It's still mono until that is done dipshit.
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lol wtf ill just read the wikpedia thing all yall are noobs
 
good for you, get back to me on what you find out. Perhaps you will then understand why I am an acutally working professional engineer. For a stereo recording you need record the initial source with at least two mics onto two separate tracks (or one stereo track that which contains both left and right information) Some techniques to do this include x/y micing (which I often used), spaced pair, M/S micing, with sub-variations on these micing techniques such as ORTF, Blumlein (which I like to do with ribbon mics for drum overheads in a nice sounding room), Decca tree, etc. Once this information is recorded on playback it needs to be panned left and right to retain the integrity of the left/right information, otherwise it essentially remains in mono.


So what did ya find out?

Oh I guess I was right after all!


The next question is, why do I even fucking bother ungrateful bastards.
 
sweetnubs said:
good for you, get back to me on what you find out. Perhaps you will then understand why I am an acutally working professional engineer. For a stereo recording you need record the initial source with at least two mics onto two separate tracks (or one stereo track that which contains both left and right information) Some techniques to do this include x/y micing (which I often used), spaced pair, M/S micing, with sub-variations on these micing techniques such as ORTF, Blumlein (which I like to do with ribbon mics for drum overheads in a nice sounding room), Decca tree, etc. Once this information is recorded on playback it needs to be panned left and right to retain the integrity of the left/right information, otherwise it essentially remains in mono.


So what did ya find out?

Oh I guess I was right after all!


The next question is, why do I even fucking bother ungrateful bastards.
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CHILL geez....Ill research later :D
 
oh come on now, i'm more of a professional engineer than you are.
haha just kidding, i obviously no nothing about what you do. But you may not know everything about everyone else's background around here eilther.

and you're right about stereo. I don't think anyone argued with you, certainly not me. In fact I've said just about what you did in other posts. But his question was how to get a track to play in both of his speakers. So whether it's a true stereo file or a dual mono, once you bounce it to a stereo interlaced file, it's a 2 channel file. If it's CD audio, then one minute takes up 10 MB of space, and it's transfer rate is 1.41 Mbps (see all the calculations I can do?) One of those channels plays in the left speaker, one of the channels plays in the right speaker. Call that whatever you want I suppose.

I think we were all trying to explain pretty early on that bouncing a mono track to both channels is not really stereo.
 
Ok well I researched and YES your right. You MUST record two tracks at once with one of those stereo techniques. THE thing I dont get is...Whats the real difference with recording each track at a time and trueley recording stereo. :confused:

Either way you have to pan each track .....
 
a mono track can sit anywhere in the stereo field (panned hard left or hard right and everywhere/anywhere in between) It's still a mono track. Say you make a recording with two microphones in an XY position and record each microphone to it's own mono track and pan one hard L and the other hard R, that is a stereo recording, even thought each track itself is a mono track. Then when you bounce those two tracks to a master stereo interlaced file you can play it back on a CD and you will hear a stereo recording (assuming your CD player has stereo outputs, and your input source has stereo inputs, which has stereo outputs to two speakers (or headphones) to listen on.

Also, notice in your DAW that if you select a mono track you only have one fader (and one input to select), but if you create a stereo audio track, you have a fader for each channel (and two inputs to select). That should show you the difference right there.
 
myhatbroke said:
Ok well I researched and YES your right. You MUST record two tracks at once with one of those stereo techniques. THE thing I dont get is...Whats the real difference with recording each track at a time and trueley recording stereo. :confused:
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Recording in true stereo is the best way when you're recording a wide source that one mic won't capture - like an orchestra or a live acoustic ensemble. It's also the best way to record when you want to capture the sound of a solo instrument in a good-sounding room. I don’t think it gains you anything with most instruments that are close-mic’d in a home studio. Could be too that many home studios don't have rooms that sound good enough to do true stereo recording and get good results. Try this: set up a pair of mic's in XY 4 feet out from an instrument. If the mic hears a good room sound, you've got a useable room for stereo techniques. More common though that it'll sounds pingy, boomy or dead. Most things in home studios are close mic’d in mono or dual-mono then panned to create artificial stereo. Nothing wrong with that. Hell, there was truly great music recorded before stereo even existed.

I like to record guitar duets where I play each part. For simplicity I usually do the parts in mono, then pan at 10 and 2 o'clock. With some carefully applied stereo verb I think mono tracks panned in "artificial stereo" can sound very lifelike. But I use true stereo techniques when recording a live guitar duo.

Best to just do what's practical. Don’t get hung up on the difference between “official” stereo and “technologically induced” stereo created by panning mono tracks. It matters much more what kind of tone quality you're getting on tracks and how skillfully you mix them.

Tim
 
Tim wins the prize for finally getting through.
 
Thread of the month!

Helped me finally understand stereo
 
RAK said:
If it's CD audio, then one minute takes up 10 MB of space, and it's transfer rate is 1.41 Mbps (see all the calculations I can do?)
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DIK - Can you explain to me the point of your numerical representation of a CD? Do I have to calculate something to have stereo?
 
I'll give ya something to calculate.
It's all 1's and 0's baby. Beautiful 1's and 0's
For example: Jimmy2sticks=mono (or maybe dual mono because you have 2 sticks, but 1 is just a copy of the other). JimmyJimmy22SticksSticks=Stereo because you have two unique versions. Althought if you ask me, it doesn't really matter because the source is no good in the first place.

Stereo is getting too boring to discuss, can we start arguing over Quad?
 
Ha, thanks RAK. That really laid it out for me.

I agree. Stereo is boring. Why don't you make a new post for me to RIP apart, RAK?
 
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