Monitors...

[Atom Bomb]

What are some general things to keep in mind when looking for monitors.

Not the lizard things...

The ones that sit on your desktop that sound comes out of...


again not lizards.


I am looking for something a bit better then what i have now.

i know these are cheap... http://www.long-mcquade.com/products/6280/

but wha tsucks about them.


Also, my brother has a really nice 3 piece set up, hes going to give me. two desk top speakers and a sub.

I know enough that it would be hard to tweak the sub and the speakers to get the truest sound out of them. How would i go about doing that?


TIPS TIPS TIPS PLZ

kthx,

 

[Vinnydude]

Don't mix on hifi speakers.

No matter how good they are, they will NOT give you a decent representation of what you should be hearing.

And as far as monitors go, how much are you willing to spend?

I have a pair of Tannoy reveal's, the original burgundy ones with the black cones. On a budget, these are dam near unbeatable and would recommend them to anyone on a budget.

 

[Atom Bomb]

Don't mix on hifi speakers.

No matter how good they are, they will NOT give you a decent representation of what you should be hearing.

And as far as monitors go, how much are you willing to spend?

I have a pair of Tannoy reveal's, the original burgundy ones with the black cones. On a budget, these are dam near unbeatable and would recommend them to anyone on a budget.

Yea my budget is important. between 150 to 200 for now. Space is also an issue unfortuantely. I don't need top of the line just cause its mainly for my own creativity, but i don't want shite.

What would be considered hifi?

 

[TeyshaBlue]

I wasn't thinking lizards, fool!


Probably not going to meet your space requirements.

 

[Double]

Try some of the Yorkville powered monitors, they sure sound a lot better than the ones you have now. L&M carry them all the time, might even be able to trade your old ones in on a new set.
Good Luck

 

[Atom Bomb]

Try some of the Yorkville powered monitors, they sure sound a lot better than the ones you have now. L&M carry them all the time, might even be able to trade your old ones in on a new set.
Good Luck

They don't want these ones. No one would.

Yea, they have yorkville promotions almost once every three months. I'll poke my head in after work...

Also i just emailed the tannoy rep for western canada. Gonna get some pricing on them puppies, the reveal model looks nice.


But what makes a speaker or monitor good? What would give me the truest sound so to speak, when im shopping?

 

[TeyshaBlue]

Yea my budget is important. between 150 to 200 for now. Space is also an issue unfortuantely. I don't need top of the line just cause its mainly for my own creativity, but i don't want shite.

What would be considered hifi?

Here's the deal, Atom. Mix on what you can afford and what translates. I've done some very solid mixes on a pair of Sony bookshelf speakers. They worked because I knew their limitations and knew how they translated because I had listened to them for years.
That being said, while they translated well, they were not very accurate nor did they reveal much detail. But they got the job done. The NS10M's are probably just as accurate as those POS Sony's, but if a mix sounds good on them, it'll probably sound good anywhere.

A proper near field monitor will help you hear detail, and depth...something you'll never get from consumer home speakers. It makes mixing easier and generally quicker, because you hear what you are actually tracking if you have some reasonably accurate monitors.

 

[TeyshaBlue]

But what makes a speaker or monitor good? What would give me the truest sound so to speak, when im shopping?

Generally speaking, flat response. Take a mix or a CD that you are very familiar with. Put yourself in the sweetspot between the monitors and listen. Can you hear things you haven't heard before? Can you hear into the mix...is there depth in the soundfield? Monitors with flat response don't sound particularly "good". They will be accurate, however.

 

[Atom Bomb]

Ahhh... there is that term agian, flat response. I think thats what i am looking for. Casue if its 'flat' sounding, its not going to accentute different freq's? it'll the sound in its truest form.

Casue the ones i have no are little bass cannons so when i pooped my mix into my jeeps stereo last night the guitars almost fucking split my ears open. the high end was bullshit.

Ok, so flat response equals good....

Most desktop speakers then in general made for computers not so good. They are probably made to make world of warcraft sonically awesome? Yea?

 

[TeyshaBlue]

Ahhh... there is that term agian, flat response. I think thats what i am looking for. Casue if its 'flat' sounding, its not going to accentute different freq's? it'll the sound in its truest form.

Casue the ones i have no are little bass cannons so when i pooped my mix into my jeeps stereo last night the guitars almost fucking split my ears open. the high end was bullshit.

Ok, so flat response equals good....

Most desktop speakers then in general made for computers not so good. They are probably made to make world of warcraft sonically awesome? Yea?

Yup..they'll be hyped in the high end, and the low end, if possible. Same thing with consumer audio speakers. They're designed to sound "full" and "amazing". Full and amazing do not equal accurate. Flat response means that the plotted signal response should resemble a flat line...no frequency higher or lower than another. Of course, this is damned near impossible due to the unknown acoustics of any given room. I really, really like my Rokkit 5's. Are they flat? Nope. But they're damned closer than say, my old Bose 601 series II. They are very cleanly balanced, octave to octave, and provide a very detail picture of a mix.
I also get to mix on some very nice, and pricey, Adam P11A. They are lightyears beyond the Rokits. I can literally hear 8 feet into a mix...and more detail emerges in the middle frequencies especially. I dunno if they're worth $2200/pair. I'm not sure the bang to performance ratio is that much higher than my $300/pair Rokit 5's. But, I do hear things in the Adams that I do not hear in the Rokits.

 

[Atom Bomb]

Yup..they'll be hyped in the high end, and the low end, if possible. Same thing with consumer audio speakers. They're designed to sound "full" and "amazing". Full and amazing do not equal accurate. Flat response means that the plotted signal response should resemble a flat line...no frequency higher or lower than another. Of course, this is damned near impossible due to the unknown acoustics of any given room. I really, really like my Rokkit 5's. Are they flat? Nope. But they're damned closer than say, my old Bose 601 series II. They are very cleanly balanced, octave to octave, and provide a very detail picture of a mix.
I also get to mix on some very nice, and pricey, Adam P11A. They are lightyears beyond the Rokits. I can literally hear 8 feet into a mix...and more detail emerges in the middle frequencies especially. I dunno if they're worth $2200/pair. I'm not sure the bang to performance ratio is that much higher than my $300/pair Rokit 5's. But, I do hear things in the Adams that I do not hear in the Rokits.

Your a stellar wealth of information when you need to be.... id rep you for this thread but i repped you once already...

someone hit TB for me.

Rokits... i will investiagte.