Monitoring with effects.

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Firstly is there a way to monitor what is being recorded as it is being recorded through Audition? I mean via Audition and not directly off the soundcard. And if thi is possible can this be done with effects?
 
Adobe Audition does not support monitoring. You can only monitor by routing the signal back from your sound card to your mixer or other hardware that has monitor or headphone outputs.
 
Well is a software package that can do it? For example, can Acid do it?
 
I think that is a limitation with all software multitracking progs. Not being able to "hear" the internal effects as you are recording the track. Effects have to be applied after the track is on hard disk. One of softwares downsides.
 
TravisinFlorida said:
I think that is a limitation with all software multitracking progs. Not being able to "hear" the internal effects as you are recording the track. Effects have to be applied after the track is on hard disk. One of softwares downsides.
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While CEP/AA won't allow monitoring thru the software with effects, most other programs actually do have this feature, having the ability to use this feature requires that your machine is powerful enough to get the processing done at very low latencies, somewhere under 5 ms is usually acceptable, and in many cases, once a certain number of tracks are recorded and playing back, you'll have to push the latency up high enough to get the playback stabilized, and then it's too high for further live monitoring.

Your soundcard/audio interface will also come into play here, as some devices, especially USB 1 devices, simply cannot be run at low enough latency to be acceptable for live "thru the software" monitoring.

Cakewalk HS2, GuitarTracks Pro 3, and Sonar all support this, I'm pretty sure that Cubase/Nuendo does, I know SAWStudio does it, and I think Samplitude as well, as does N-Track.

I'm sure I've forgotten a few...

:)
 
I have Sonar. I will have to give the effects thing a try. I have'nt really used anything else much but cep and aa I guess because I'm so familiar with it and it's easy for me to use now.
 
I think that "input monitoring", as Cakewalk calls it, was introduced in Sonar 2, I've got Sonar 2.2XL, and that verson has it, it's turned on under Options/Audio, then click on the input monitoring tab, then select the correct input driver.

As stated earlier, you'll need to be running at very low latency for this to work right, about 5 ms or less.
 
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ok, llike u said, can't do input monitoring with effects with a high latency. guess I'll have to try it again when I get a new sound card.
 
Well I was thinking of swotching to Acid if it could do it but I don't know if it can. Can anyone tell me if Acid can monitor with effects?

Another question.
How would you do ths other wise? Like, for vocals example, buy a harware reverb unit and pass the monitor signal through that so the artist can hear it?
 
ok, got asio4all driver and sonar is reporting a 2.9ms latency. sweet! 2.9ms with crappy onboard sound. who would have thought it? I had some trouble figuring the effects out cause I never use Sonar. now i just need to find a compressor. can I use a compressor plugin to tame my input and get the same results as using a hardware compressor? if nothing else, now I can listen to all the noise in my apartment with crazy ass effects. I'm using some kinda trippy tremolo effect right this second and all the cars driving by sound like they're circling my head. ha ha.

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sonar has a compressor so I think I'm good to go. I've had this sitting on my desktop for months and never really used it.
 
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I'm glad to see you got it working with the ASIO for all drivers!

Sonar doesn't record the effected signal, it's still recording dry, while some programs do allow recording thru the channel insert effects, in most cases recording dry leaves the most options open later, after recording thru effects you cannot "un-effect" a track.

Bear in mind that no software compressor will allow you effectively control peaks on the way in, if you drive your input signal into clipping the first thing that's gonna clip is the input's A-D converter, and that will happen before the signal ever reaches the software compressor, so you still have to make sure that your actual input recording levels don't clip, I mostly consider monitoring thru software effects just for monitoring purposes.

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Chewie said:
Well I was thinking of swotching to Acid if it could do it but I don't know if it can. Can anyone tell me if Acid can monitor with effects?

Another question.
How would you do ths other wise? Like, for vocals example, buy a harware reverb unit and pass the monitor signal through that so the artist can hear it?
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I've never used acid so I can't help there.

Yes, a hardware reverb, and maybe a small mixer can be used as a good solution, whether or not you would need the mixer would really depend on what kind of soundcard/audio interface you have, some are more capable than others as far as their built in software mixer applets and internal routing go.
 
Well I'm using a Delta1010LT. Does it have anyway itself to do what I need? I haven't seen anything of the sort with it but it does mention DSP. I don't if it mentioned it in relation to effects.
 
damn, i still gotta buy a compressor. any low budget reccommendations?
 
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