Mixer and using by PC

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Hello everybody,

I'm a teenager and will buy a Behringer UB2442 FX soon.
I'm setting up a home studio and do have a question where I haven't found the answer for.
I have a PC which I want to have implanted with a soundcard where 8 inputs and 8 outputs can be found on. I'm also thinking about Steinberg Cubase SE.
Now was my question as follows.
All sources (Mic's, lines etc) will be coming in at my mixer. My mixer has two outputs: Direct outs and inserts. However, when I have recorded thing I want to use the faders of my mixer for final mixing. Is this possible???

I was thinking about about using the inserts so that the sound which will come in go first to my pc and via the output of my soundcard directly back trough the insert and so on to the main system. Or does this only work during an input and not when things are recorded. Because I can understand that when there is no input on the mixer that the insert also won't work.
The problem with direct out is that I can't use the faders on my mixer for mixing the recorded part.
How do they do that in the big studios???


I really have no idea how I can record with the PC but use the faders of my mixer even when it is recorded already
 
In all honesty, you would be hard pressed to find any big studio using a Behringer desk for their mixing or analog summing.
If you really want to mix with faders, while using a budget mixer for input channels, I would opt for a control surface to facilitate mixing in the box with faders.
 
Another way to do what you want is to get an 8 in/8 out card like the Delta 1010LT.

For recording connect the mixer direct outs to the card's 8 inputs.

To mix in the mixer, disconnect the direct outs, and connect the cards 8 outputs to 8 line ins on the mixer. Assign a track to each output in Cubase. Connect the mixer's Main outs to inputs 1 & 2 on the soundcard and assign these to 2 new tracks in Cubase. Now you can move the mixer faders and record your mix on the 2 new tracks.

However most people would just mix within Cubase using enevlopes and/or automation. The problem with doing it in your mixer is you're restricted to 8 tracks and you gotta keep plugging things in & out
 
My post is not concerning the mixing, but the mixer you are buying.
I don't know if you are buying it from a friend and/or you are getting it cheap.
But for $250 you can get a much better mixer than the UB2442 FX.

Don't get me wrong I originally got a UB802 ($50), but when I saw that I was going to do more I got a Yamaha MG 10/2 ($99) for $50 more. If I was going to spend $250 on a mixer I would have gone with either a Mackie or a Yamaha.
Here is a Yamaha mixer for only $30 of the cost of the Behringer - http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--YAMMG164

or if you want one with FX here is a Mackie for $10 less than the Behringer
http://www.zzounds.com/a--2676837/item--MACDFX12

If you don't care too much about the quality of the sound or perhaps you need a whole load of (10 to be exact) microphone channels (which the Yamaha above gives you without FX) with FX, then go with your option of mixer.
Good luck!
 
Well Great thanks,

However, I'm still going for the UB 2442FX. The reason for this is that the price of yamaha and Mackie, which I still really want, are in the Netherlands much more expensive. I directly pay double for it. Comes because of more reason but one is the VAT difficulty over here. Over Behringer you only pay 6% VAT over here while you pay over mackie and Yamaha 19% VAT. This makes a big difference.
 
Mg 16/4

If you want a quality mixer, go with the Yamaha 16/4. For only $276, it's one hell of a mixer. It has 8 mono mic channels and 4 stereo line channels(2 of which can double as a mono mic channel).
 
wage. i have friends in europe and appreciate your vat dilemma. one way out of the mark ups is to build your own mic preamps. which is what i do.
but i would advise for safety reasons you take an electronics course for 3 months or so at a adult college. you can build a nice little mic pre for about 10 bucks in parts. if you want some example links just ask.
also if you dont have musicians to work with in your studio check out band in a box sometime. (pgmusic.com). it can save a lot of songwriting time over traditional sequencers, and as the name implies will create a back up band in software. very good for testing out quick songwriting ideas.
heres the user forum. great bunch of friendly people that can help with a lot of techniques/ideas for you....
http://www.pgmusic.com/cgi-bin/Ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=1
 
RR,

> I was thinking about about using the inserts <

Yes, this is exactly how it's done. For the complete story see Using a Mixer with a DAW from EQ magazine, first in the list on my Articles page:

www.ethanwiner.com/articles.html

--Ethan
 
So in all respect I can also use the directs out. Far more easy than pluggingn in only partway into the insertbus. Beside that I will have my inserts free for maybe some other stuff.

However

Great thanx

Remco
 
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