minidisk or DAT????

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Hello.
Is minidisk as good as DAT for mixdown, to master from? I assume not...if anything is it less noisy and better quality than cassette??
 
Minidisc isn't EVEN CLOSE to DAT as a mixdown unit.

But it is SCADS better than cassette..........

Bruce
 
Well, blue bear says it correct. You might not hear the difference on an average stereo-installation, but with good studio-speakers, you'll certainly hear the loss of depth in the minidisk recording.
 
Thank you guys for the advice. I really appreciate it. There's a column on this site by Dragon, saying that minidisc is a great medium. I guess I was wondering if I would get out cheap! No substitute for quality tone/ noise reduction.
 
We're not saying MD sucks. it sounds rather ok to me, not to say I don't even hear the difference on some/many occasions. If you're upgrading from cassette, MD is one big step up. But it's no DAT. The difference is in the data reductions MD uses.

So if you're not pro, you probably don't need to invest in DAT. It is not common used in consumer-world, and MD is. So MD is much more versatile. So it's up to you. Invest in better quality (only makes sense if you have other quality products) or in a more compatible medium.
 
I just now got a killer buy on a Technics DAT recorder off of ebay.
I guess that solves that. I'm sure I'll be happier in the long run, as I'm very serious about my music. My last demo was mixed on a cassette, and after it was mastered- actually sounded great- even is getting airplay(!) but a few stations ruled it out because it just wasn't quite up to par with the flock of artists' totally polished, in-your-face pro-tools recordings.
The volume is lacking and there is a fair amount of hiss.
I look forward to hearing the difference.
 
If it's a DA-20 you'll have the SCMS (serial copy management system) on it, which can be a pain in the ass with copying DAT digitally. But in real live it isn't much off a problem. Way to go, love Tascam. You probably made a good deal.
 
Not to burst your bubble but........

DAT in the long run, is on it's way out.
Thats not to say you didnt get a good deal and you will probably
get some good use out of it but it's not a tool for the long run.
 
Well in the long run even my girlfriend is going to be on her way out. (hope she doesn't read this.)

I guess we're talking second hand, and a bargain. (not my girlfriend, but the DAT)

Within a couple of years the DAT will still have a solid place in studioland. So I say : buy DAT, buy DAT, buy DAT, buy DAT.

Yeah, all together now : buy DAT, buy DAT, buy DAT, buy DAT.

Uhm ok, you get the point.
 
Good choice with the DAT. How much did ya pay one Ebay for your DAT machine?

Peace,
Dennis
 
Downside Studio said:

Within a couple of years the DAT will still have a solid place in studioland. So I say : buy DAT, buy DAT, buy DAT, buy DAT.

"Studioland" will probably be a Museum for Audio or a fun park like "Disney Land".
 
Wow, that would be cool.....

'mummie I want to go on that SSL again. NO, you spend 1 hour on the Neve and your little brother wants to see the tube compressors. Stop wining you little fart..!!'
 
Hey compadres, King of the Mountains, etc.:]

Dats a nice discussion of the DAT. I never bought one but had it on my mind until all those CD burners came out; I didn't buy one of those either because I bought the Yamaha AW 2816.

This will put my MD8 into retirement. As mentioned, the MD8 is a big step up from plain cassette tape.

But, the 2816 has 24 bit sound, 32 bit DSP, built-in effects, [don't know how good they are as I don't have the unit yet] and 16 tracks to play with. I don't know how many tracks the unit records at once but I'm guessing at least 8 which is more than I need for my purposes at this time.

When finished with the cut, the unit mixes right down to CD, all in one nice little box.

I read good reviews about the bigger more expensive Yamaha unit, the 4416 I think -- but the 2816 is half the price.

So, enjoy your DAT because dats what you wanted. Next time, think in 24 bit sound.


Green Hornet


:D :D :D
 
Yo Upsidedownside:

Get your finger out of the dike and let the water of information flow.

I have a 24 bit RECORDER BOX or Digital Audio Workstation which, will record lots of stuff and then mix it down to a red book CD.

So, what do you record with? MD8 is nice but the 24 bit is much better.

Hope the tulips come up in the spring.

Green Hornet
:D :D :D
 
Hey Downside- Thanks for the advice. I appreciate it, man.
Atomictoyz- I snatched it up for $150.00. About the same price as the minidisk. All I know is it'll be way better than my cassettes...at least I hope!
Hey, Green Hornet-we're all very proud of you for buying that mean machine. I'm certain that your songwriting is worthy of it:-)
Talk Later.


It's all about passion.
 
I use 12 x tube preamp (TLAudio) and 24 x custom build preamp (DSPro), direct connected to 32 track of Tascam DA-88/38. In combination with Tascam TMD8000 40ch dig. console (full auto on Mac PPC) and Yamaha 02R. Effects are TCelectronics M3000 and M-0ne, Yamaha SPX990, rev5 and Digi S400.

That's only a small part of it.

Don't get me wrong, but I can't stand people saying you need to have 24bits of this and that while the record thru a $4,99 microphone. It's not in the bits and Khz. Remeber the old Pink Floyd and Alan Parsons stuff?
 
It's all in the song.
Led Zep II sound great. The Beatles White Album...old Sabbath...let's face it- this stuff is more pleasurable to the ear than 99% of music recorded today.
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band was done on a 4-track.
No copy+paste yadayada...
just my opinion
 
Mountainmirrors said:
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band was done on a 4-track.
Just a point of information -- it wasn't a PortaStudio-type 4-Track -- it was high-end analog 4-track along lines similar to Otari or Studer gear.

In actuality, I beleive they specifically used custom EMI recorders........

MM - you probably knew that when you posted, I just wanted anyone reading to understand what 4-track gear meant in the Beatles days!

Bruce
 
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