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Bass09
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I'm using a Tascam eight track to record drum tracks my question is any tips on snare recording such as mike position, mike type, should I compress? effects suggestions
montage
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As far as tips go,I can tell you what I do:
1. tune the drum to a satisfying sound.
2. position a SM58 approximately 1 1/2" from the top rim, at a 45 degree angle, pointing to the center of the drum head.
3. whack the drum fairly hard, and adjust mic gain/level accordingly so it does not distort at it's peak.
I never compress when recording. If you do decide to compress when recording, start at the lowest setting and work up from there until you get a level you're comfortable with. If possible, make a test recording with each instance of major tweaking and listen back to see where you're at.
Hope I helped at all.
1. tune the drum to a satisfying sound.
2. position a SM58 approximately 1 1/2" from the top rim, at a 45 degree angle, pointing to the center of the drum head.
3. whack the drum fairly hard, and adjust mic gain/level accordingly so it does not distort at it's peak.
I never compress when recording. If you do decide to compress when recording, start at the lowest setting and work up from there until you get a level you're comfortable with. If possible, make a test recording with each instance of major tweaking and listen back to see where you're at.
Hope I helped at all.
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Bass09
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Thanks for the info I have sm58 I can use I'll try that out I think I have had the mike too close in other attemps and I was using a different mike how is the bleeding on the sm58? I noticed you didn't mention any effects do you use any reverb? or maybe a touch of delay to make it sound fatter?
Track Rat
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The pattern on a 58 will be very simaler to a 57 which is the standard snare mic. Gated revrbs are nice fatteners. Personally I like some compression and just enough verb to put some "air" around it.
Track Rat
Just Your Average Sized Member
The pattern on a 58 will be very simaler to a 57 which is the standard snare mic. Gated revrbs are nice fatteners. Personally I like some compression and just enough verb to put some "air" around it.
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g u n g h o
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When recording the snare drum it is very common to mic both the top and bottom heads. This is because the snare wires stretched across the bottom head produce a completely different sound to the top.
I use a SM-57 on top 3-4cm pointing towards the center and a MD-504 on the bottom approx 20cm pointing off axis to the center and out of phase.
You can mix the 2 inputs(mics) to one track during recording to save tracks....I use some compression, not much at all though.
As for EFX I sometimes use a touch of gate reverb at a low level as a fattener.....and a room or hall type reverb to add an atmosphere/environment.
gung
[This message has been edited by g u n g h o (edited 06-30-2000).]
I use a SM-57 on top 3-4cm pointing towards the center and a MD-504 on the bottom approx 20cm pointing off axis to the center and out of phase.
You can mix the 2 inputs(mics) to one track during recording to save tracks....I use some compression, not much at all though.
As for EFX I sometimes use a touch of gate reverb at a low level as a fattener.....and a room or hall type reverb to add an atmosphere/environment.
gung
[This message has been edited by g u n g h o (edited 06-30-2000).]
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Bass09
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Good info thanks I like the two mike idea appreciate all the help people
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James HE
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If you have a gate with a sidechain insert, you can completly eliminate the bleed through, well not completly technically i guess but... you'll see what i mean.
Get a little small speaker, or (what I use,) an acoustic transducer, and attatch it the head of the snare drum, this is your trigger . wire the trigger to the sidechain input of the gate, and set the threshold to where any slight tap on the head will trigger it. When ever you hit the snare, the gate, opens, otherwise the signal is dead quiet- no bleed through.
compression is a goodie too. If you have a compressor/gate then your good to go. I use a dbx 266XL.
This is one trick that Ed cued me in on, so thank him not me.
-jhe
Get a little small speaker, or (what I use,) an acoustic transducer, and attatch it the head of the snare drum, this is your trigger . wire the trigger to the sidechain input of the gate, and set the threshold to where any slight tap on the head will trigger it. When ever you hit the snare, the gate, opens, otherwise the signal is dead quiet- no bleed through.
compression is a goodie too. If you have a compressor/gate then your good to go. I use a dbx 266XL.
This is one trick that Ed cued me in on, so thank him not me.
-jhe
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lazyboy
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He-man,
Can you clue me in on what a sidechain is?
I don't currently have a compressor/gate, but I have a bunch of C-ducer triggers that I had no idea I could put to such good use. Can you think of any other good uses for the c-ducers? Thanks for the tip James/Ed.
Can you clue me in on what a sidechain is?
I don't currently have a compressor/gate, but I have a bunch of C-ducer triggers that I had no idea I could put to such good use. Can you think of any other good uses for the c-ducers? Thanks for the tip James/Ed.
Tim Brown
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lazyboy:
He-man,
Can you clue me in on what a sidechain is?
I don't currently have a compressor/gate, but I have a bunch of C-ducer triggers that I had no idea I could put to such good use. Can you think of any other good uses for the c-ducers? Thanks for the tip James/Ed.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
A side Chain allows another signal to control the processed signal.
One use of it, is you can run a bass guitar through the noise gate, and have the kick drum plugged into the sidechain.
The Gate will only open when the Kickdrum strikes-locking the Bass guitar signal to the kick drum.
You can also use a sidechain with an EQ plugged into it, and have a "frequency controlled" gate or compressor.
Or the drum trigger trick.
Tim
He-man,
Can you clue me in on what a sidechain is?
I don't currently have a compressor/gate, but I have a bunch of C-ducer triggers that I had no idea I could put to such good use. Can you think of any other good uses for the c-ducers? Thanks for the tip James/Ed.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
A side Chain allows another signal to control the processed signal.
One use of it, is you can run a bass guitar through the noise gate, and have the kick drum plugged into the sidechain.
The Gate will only open when the Kickdrum strikes-locking the Bass guitar signal to the kick drum.
You can also use a sidechain with an EQ plugged into it, and have a "frequency controlled" gate or compressor.
Or the drum trigger trick.
Tim
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Bass09
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Side chain great info! I have a compressor with side chains I also have guitar transducers sounds like a great idea I think I'll take a shot! Thanks people
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Spider
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that sounds pretty cool ,the gate and all!!!
i wanna try that , so who makes mics with the side chain?? and also it would be cool to hear about any procesors with side chains ... anyway , gotta go ,, see yall soon!!!!
i wanna try that , so who makes mics with the side chain?? and also it would be cool to hear about any procesors with side chains ... anyway , gotta go ,, see yall soon!!!!
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saxman72
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The side chain comes on compressor/gates. Make sure to use a gate that has adjustable decay rates (for this particular application). A popular inexpensive unit like the Alesis 3630 has both a sidechain and a knob to adjust the release rate of the gate. You can usually find one used for pretty cheap these days.