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[dragonworks]

I II III IV V VI VII
Do Re Mi Fa Sol La Ti Do
1 9 3 11 5 13 7

1-3-5=MAJOR
1-b3-5=MINOR
1- #3- #5=AUGMENTED
1-b3-b5=DIMINISHED
1-3-5-7=MAJOR 7TH
1-3-5-b7=DOMINANT 7TH
1-b3-5-7=MINOR DOMINANT 7TH
1-3-5-7-9=MAJOR 9TH
1-b3-5-7-9=MINOR 9TH
1-3-5-7-11=MAJOR 11TH
1-3-5-7-13=MAJOR 13TH
1-3-b5=MAJOR W/FLATTED 5TH

ETC

C MAJOR SCALE
DO RE ME FA SO LA TI DO
C D E F G A B C
1-3-5 = C-E-G = CMAJOR
1-b3-5 = C-Eb-G = CMINOR

MAJOR SCALES

C D E F G A B C
G A B C D E F# G
D E F# G A B C# D
A B C# D E F# G# A
E F# G# A B C# D# E
B C# D# E F G# A# B
F G A Bb C D E F
Bb C D Eb F G A Bb
Eb F G Ab Bb C D Eb
Ab Bb C Db Eb F G Ab
Db Eb F Gb Ab Bb C Db
Gb Ab Bb Cb Db Eb F Gb

TRIADS BUILT ON MAJOR SCALES

I II III IV V VI VII
MAJOR MINOR MINOR MAJOR MAJOR MINOR AUGMENTED
CM Dm Em FM GM Am B+


CHORD PROGRESSION FOR LIKE A ROLLING STONE

VERESE I-II-III-IV-V
C-Dm-Em-F-G
BRIDGE IV-V-IV-V-IV-III-II-I.......IV-V
F-G-F-G-F-Em-Dm-C........F-G
CHORUS I-IV-V
C-F-G

 

[Purge]

But how do you play "Smoke On The Water"??

 

[dragonworks]

Now to deal with the minor keys as I know them, remember this is classical
shit and the rules are made to be broken.
And we also must remember that dragonworks is a dummy and prone to human errors and typos.
So with that said, we venture forth. Minor keys are a little trickier although the scales are easy.
We will start with those.

The Aminor scale has no sharps or flats
A-B-C-D-E-F-G-A

Building chords 1-3-5, 1-b3-5 etc is derived from the major scales as described above.

If one takes time to notice, the C major scale has no sharps and flats,
the same as the A minor scale
Am is said to be the relative minor to C major
the C major scale is
C-D-E-F-G-A-B-C
with A being the sixth of the scale.
the Aminor scale being
A-B-C-D-E-F-G-A

It stands to reason that being the case
the sixth degree of any major scale is that major scales relative minor
So if we take G major
G-A-B-C-D-E-F#-G
the sixth being the E
then Em is the relative minor to G major and the Em scale is
E-F#-G-A-B-C-D-E
Therefore if one knows the major scales then one knows the minor scales.
here are the Majors with their relative minors
C-Am
G-Em
D-Bm
A-F#m
E-C#m
B-G#m
F-Dm
Bb-Gm
Eb-Cm
Ab-Fm
Db-Bbm
Gb-Ebm

Building triads (chords)on the minor scale
using the A minor scale.
I***II***III**IV***V**VI**VII
A***B***C***D***E***F***G***A
min min*Maj**Maj* Min**Maj*Maj
***********min*Maj **********

the IV and V can be either major or minor depending on the feel
one seeks. In most minor blues the IV and V would be minors.
The chords in the key of Aminor would then be
Am-Bm-C-Dm or Dmajor-Em or E major- Fmajor- Gmajor

House of the Rising Sun
I***III***IV***VI***I***III***V
Am*C****D***F***Am***C***E

one last look at the pentatonic scale(?)
in the key of A
A-C-D-E-G-A
If noticed this is just a Cmajor or an Aminor scale with a couple of notes left out.
If these notes are used to improvise in the key of A they will sound rockish
If these notes are used starting on the note C in the key of C they will sound countryish.
C-D-E-G-A-C

 

[Rokket]

It helps.... LOADS! Thanks for the refresher and things I didn't know. And the stuff I knew but forgot....

 

[dragonworks]

If you play the song "Hey Joe" You have what is called a cycle of fifths.
The chords in Hey Joe are C-G-D-A-E. If you take notice of the way the major scales are laid out above you will see that C major has no sharps or flats. G major has one sharp, D major has two sharps-A major has three sharps-E major has four sharps.
If you count up five in the C major scale you come to G
If you count up five in the G major scale you come to D
If you count up five in the D major scale you come to A
If you count up five in the A major scale you come to E

If noticed, each sharp that is added to each scale is carried over into the next scale in the cycle of fifths.

How to build a major scale starting with any note

DO-RE-MI-FA-SOL-LA-TI-DO
C**D**E**F**G**A**B**C

between C and D a note is skipped, between D and E a note is skipped, between
E and F a note is not skipped, between F and G a note is skipped, between G and A
a note is skipped, between A and B a note is skipped, between B and C a note is not skipped.

When a note is skipped it is called a whole step. When a note is not skipped it is called a half step.
So the pattern above is
Whole step, whole step, half step, whole step, whole step, whole step, half step.
Starting on ANY note, if this pattern is followed it will be a major scale in the key of the note your started with.
If all the major scales layed out in the first thread are studied you will see that this pattern is followed in everyone of them. That is why the sharps and flats start showing up as you follow the cycle of fifths.

The minor scales are as follows
A-B-C-D-E-F-G-A

Between A and B is a whole step, between B and C is a half step, between C and D
is a whole step, between D and E is a whole step, between E and F is a half step, between F and G is a whole step, and between G and A is a whole step.

So a minor scales pattern is
whole step, half step , whole step, whole step, half step, whole step, whole step.
If this pattern is followed starting on any note then you will have a minor scale in the key of the note your started with.

 

[LI_Slim]

Jerry, I promise not to tell the people who only post in the Cave how kind and thoughtful and patient you are being.

And don't forget 6 and sus4 chords!