Mid-Line Kits {Yamaha Stage Custom (or drum in its class)}

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Have any of you ever taken a Yamaha Stage Custom or any drum in its class and changed the rims to 2.3 mm triple flanged heavy duty hoops or die cast hoops? Or changed over to the R.I.M.S mounts? How did this effect your drums for the possitive or negitive as far as feel and sound in both live and recording situations?


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to tell you the truth, i bought mine with the standard steel hoops and later invested in the stronger die-cast hoops and haven't noticed a big difference in sound. they're a little "bigger" sounding, and i'm not totally sure thats the right word for it either, but they still sound like "my set", as i've always remembered it. one thing though, i don;t really know a sure method for tuning. i wish there was one way traditionally and a thousand possibillities from there. but it's a thousand possibilities to begin with, and no one way to do it. the only hoops i've heard that drastically alter the sound of the drum are wood. and it increases warmth at any tuning. but ya can smash em if ur not careful. if ur john bontam.
 
I use isolation mounts on all my drums (by the way, many mid level kits such as Yamaha Stage Custom and Peral Exports now come with isolation mounts). Naturally almost any "pro-level" kits have iso mounts.

I think iso mounts can help any tom to resonate more, which provides a deeper, warmer sound. In fact I put RIMS on a Mapex Voyager kit (v-serie Basswood shells) which is a very entry level kit, with 8", 10" and 12" toms with an 18" kick. - the RIMS made the 10" and 12" toms sound deeper than they really are (I don't use the 8" tom).

I got this kit for a "small jazz kit' - so I needed to get the warmest sound I could and with the RIMS and some Evans G2's I get a very decent sound (I use 2-ply to help with a deeper sound, even though traditionally a jazz kit would have single ply)

Regarding die cast hoops - I think they make alot of sense on the snare - to get a deeper sound - and they help for consistant tuning - but I'm not convinced the cost is worth it on toms. I think the right head, the right tuning and iso mounts should be enough tom treatment.
 
Wood Hoops

The drum kit I own that used to belong to Tommy Aldridge came with Yamaha Vintage Wood hoops. I have never heard fuller, warmer sounding toms EVER. I am still debating whether or not to stick some wood hoops on my snare, but the toms sound wonderful.

If you have the scratch, go for wood.
 
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