microphone for screaming/yelling?

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for screaming should i use a condenser?
what about yelling?

I have a sm57 and an Sennheiser 421, I was going to buy a condenser like the SP c1, but then someone told me that cardiods were better for these kinds of vocals. What do you guys think? Are there any good cheap condensers for screaming? Or will one of the 2 mics I already listed be do fine?
 
Take lessons from a vocal coach.

Screaming into a condensor is just gonna overload it.

Stick with the 57. It's not like you need the sensitivity that condensors offer.
 
Your 421 is going to yeild much smoother and larger sounding vox than the 57. I would stick with over any budget condensor.
 
Definitely the 421...or other nice dynamic mics like the EV RE20 or the Shure SM7
 
You can have powerful vocals that sound "like" yelling/screaming without hurting your voice. Taking vocal lessons/coaching is your best path to staying healthy. Although I respect the C1 as a fine vocal mic for many singers,
using the next $200 towards lessons first would be wise IMHO.

Also, is that the newer 421 MKII, or one of the older 421's?
They're different in tone.

Chris
 
i'm not the one that's going to be doing the screaming so I don't need lessons. I just bought it off of ebay new so it's probably the mkII. I bought it because i didn't like the sound I was getting from my sm57 on guitars, but I was also using the CRAPPY preamp on my soundcard. I have since bought a DMP3. Almost all the vocals I'm goign to be recording are screaming and yelling so if the 421 mkII will work as good as a condenser than I'd rather spend the rest on some decent drum mics.
 
BRIEFCASEMANX said:
for screaming should i use a condenser?
what about yelling?

I have a sm57 and an Sennheiser 421, I was going to buy a condenser like the SP c1, but then someone told me that cardiods were better for these kinds of vocals. What do you guys think?
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The SP-C1 mic is a "cardiod" mic (cardiod is a patten type) ... I think you ment "dynamic" type mic rather than a "condenser" type mic.

Are there any good cheap condensers for screaming? Or will one of the 2 mics I already listed be do fine?
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Your SM57 and MD421 should work as good as they have been so far... you may also want to checkout/audition a Shure SM-7.
 
Im not going to yap at you one way or the other about singing proper or making the people you record sing proper. I have worked on quite a few metal projects that implemented very aggressive vocals. I found in some cases that a condenser did more for the sound than a dynamic. This will of course depend on the voice but I got good results with an AT-3035 as well as a Studio projects b1. The trick with screaming vocals in my opinion is finding the right compressor and knowing how to apply it without making a mess.
If you already have the dynamics, give them a go and see what happens. If your not happy, try something else. No one can tell you what is going to sound good.
 
Also you have to take into account your singers. Some screamer types feel that they just HAVE to have the mic nearly stuffed into their mouth. You don't want a condenser anywhere near that much saliva. Also some screamer types feel constrained artistically if they can't grab the mic or the stand and move about as they sing. Also a complete no-no with a condenser.
 
yeah, i'd just use that sennheiser...

if you're recording hardrock or metal, then you don't always need a condenser.... most of the time the distortion guitars take alot of headroom and stuff...so you don't really have the opportunity to hear how christal clear the vocals were recorded...

condensers kick ass for hiphop and softer stuff....
i do use my condenser for everything, i only got one

...akg c414 ....
and before i bought that one i did EVERYTHING with just dynamic mics...
they are good enoug; just not as sensitive....
 
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