mic .. ripping?

[j2310lime]

Hey guys this is my first time here.

Well i understand this is a home recording forum but I had some questions about the system in my church (which is pretty much my home haha)

The first problem I have is with our mic

we have a shure wireless mic, not exactly sure of the model but when our speaker start to talk loudly into the mic the mic starts to rip. I dot know if this is the correct term but when he speaks loud into the mic, it either rips or buzzes or makes static noise.

I hope you know what i mean. Would anyone know the solution to this?

 

[qrs]

I'd say check the wireless mic receiver's cable that is hooked up to the mixer. Also, is it just that mic, or other ones too?

 

[boingoman]

The word you are looking for is distortion.

At some point in the signal chain the level needs to be turned down to avoid clipping the signal, which is the source of the distorted sound.

You will need to determine where this is happening and make the appropriate adjustment. A quick look at the level meters might tell you where the problem is.

If none of that makes sense, it might be worth it to ask if anyone in the flock has any experience, or call a local sound provider for some advice for a quick fix. It's not hard, but to get rid of the problem and get the most out of your system means having a basic understanding of gain structure, which may not happen by Sunday.

 

[Weasel9992]

Yeah...distortion. Either turn the gain down or the person speaking into the mic has to turn himself down. Or you can add a limiter to the 2-buss...then the fun *really* begins.

Frank

 

[dementedchord]

is this a cip-on or hand neld??? either way make sure he's not eating the mic...

 

[dgatwood]

There's probably a gain adjustment on the belt pack somewhere, and it is probably up too high. Either that or the fine tune (frequency) adjustment is off and when you put too much sound into it, you're getting too much excursion from the channel's center frequency and you're exceeding the bandpass range in the receiver or something....

 

[j2310lime]

It's a handheld but come to think of it our pin mic does that too let me check the gain level and get back to you
And its only those two mic
I don't think a limter is a good idea for now since only I would know how to control it if at all

We are trying to update our handheld and pin mic.
Last time I checked sennheiser handheld pin mic combo were pretty good

What would you guys recommend?

 

[boingoman]

Sennheiser Evolution are pretty good. I'm a big Shure fan but for a reason related to your problem (gain adjustment) I don't recommend any Shure below the ULX series, which means $6-700 at least.

 

[j2310lime]

update: about the mic ripping. Wow I can't believe I didnt realize this sooner but the receiver is peaking unbelievably. and its the really really old one ev MR2500 and theres no volume adjustment. and well even if I adjust the gain it doesnt any difference. .... any suggestios?

could anyone give me some personal reviews about countryman headsets.

the level of comfort and reliability as well as the sound quality.

thanks!

 

[Shadow_7]

You might be able to cut down on the input signal with a windscreen or attenuator. But it sounds like you'd be happier with a different setup.

 

[dgatwood]

update: about the mic ripping. Wow I can't believe I didnt realize this sooner but the receiver is peaking unbelievably. and its the really really old one ev MR2500 and theres no volume adjustment. and well even if I adjust the gain it doesnt any difference. .... any suggestios?

could anyone give me some personal reviews about countryman headsets.

the level of comfort and reliability as well as the sound quality.

thanks!

Like I said, check the frequency fine tuning. That's a common symptom of the receiver being slightly off channel in one of the sidebands on either side of the main carrier.

 

[astoebe]

On alot of belt packs there is a pad switch that will cut the signal -10 dB or so...I don't know if you've checked for that, and I doubt there is one on your handheld. Actually, I think looking at the manual that there is a gain adjustment on the receiver...if this is the right manual...

http://starin.info/Product Info/Bosch - EV/Manuals/MS2500 Series.pdf

Not to disagree with others too much, but this is just a clipping problem and I would be shocked if there weren't a way to adjust the gain better...you probably don't need something else

 

[j2310lime]

awesome I couldnt find the manual but I can try to lower the gain on the mic now.

i'll update ..