mic choice need darker mic

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i was used to using my mk319 (what is considered a darker mic)
i bought my at4040 and although i love its brightness and clarity
i need a darker mic with similar detail. any suggestions in the 0-700 range
at4047 or 4050 maybe?
 
Scoob said:
i was used to using my mk319 (what is considered a darker mic)
i bought my at4040 and although i love its brightness and clarity
i need a darker mic with similar detail. any suggestions in the 0-700 range
at4047 or 4050 maybe?
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I think you would find the 4050 to be very similar to the 4040, just not quite as bright. It might be perfect, based on what you're looking for.
 
I would say the Baby Bottle, but with all this Blue nonsense, I just don't know :(
 
The 4047 I had was darker than my 319.
 
Ive heard the mxl v69 is a very dark mic...and its a tube mic....i believe from what i read most people like it and have always commented that its "dark" sounding....i have no first hand experience with it, but like I said ive read alot that stated that.
 
Janesaid2me said:
Ive heard the mxl v69 is a very dark mic...and its a tube mic....i believe from what i read most people like it and have always commented that its "dark" sounding....i have no first hand experience with it, but like I said ive read alot that stated that.
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The V69 is not a dark mic, actually it has a sparkling hi end. It's not a neutral sounding mic, quite colored but I like it very on a number of applications.

Ribbon mics are dark and because the ribbon is very thin they combine the advantages of both dynamics and condensers.
 
Janesaid2me said:
Ive heard the mxl v69 is a very dark mic...and its a tube mic....i believe from what i read most people like it and have always commented that its "dark" sounding....i have no first hand experience with it, but like I said ive read alot that stated that.
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It sounds like you might like the mxl V76 (tube). It's a balanced sounding mic and there's a hint of the U87 to it, which to me has a dark character. It's the only budget mic I would recommend that I think delivers smooth midrange and silky highs with some darkness to boot. This isn't to say that it's a U87, however; but's it's still a lovely mic.
 
so far the list is
mxl v76
at4050 or 4047
and ribbon mics which are a new animal to me.
any other suggestions?
what ribbons in the 700 range?
 
Don't laugh- AKG Solidtube. Just rip the silly foam wind screen out of it and it will do exactly what you are asking for.
 
Scoob said:
i was used to using my mk319 (what is considered a darker mic)
i bought my at4040 and although i love its brightness and clarity
i need a darker mic with similar detail. any suggestions in the 0-700 range
at4047 or 4050 maybe?
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Stetch your budget a bit (to $800 or so) and consider an AEA R92 ribbon mic.
 
Han said:
The V69 is not a dark mic, actually it has a sparkling hi end.
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The V69 has a nice airy top end, but it's still dark. But airy is more in the 12K+ range, and does not mean it's bright. "Bright" and sparkling are more in the 5K-10K range.

A mic can be dark and still have nice air.

Sparkling high-end implies the mic is bright - such as an AKG 414 or 251.

Scoob, maybe this in-progress mic graph will help http://www.thelisteningsessions.com/micgraph.htm

My 2¢.
 
at4047

on bass it's a different mic from the AT line - i guess a more aggressive midrange or something - on vocals it has that same old funky edgy top which i wouldn't describe as dark. i don't think this one would fit the bill but ya never know.

"what ribbons in the 700 range?"

RCA BK5. Beyer M160/130. RCA 74.

Mike
 
The 4047 is a great darker mic I use it for bass cab, gtr cab and vocals alot. You could also try a beyer M88.
Also i second the m160, great on guitar amps and as overheads.
 
Im thinking of getting a ribbon mike to get a darker sound on my classical guitar im not good enuf to rate it but might spring for a m160 anywy since ive heard a couple recordings using it that i like. good thread

j
 
Im pretty sure guys ive read about 1000 times that the v69 is considered a "dark" mic....i dont wanna question your expertise, but i know what ive read....i know the v77 is considered the neutral mic from mxl...but whatever...just wanted to ummm say im pretty sure i was right going by what ive read people say...like i said i have no experience with the mic personally and again dark is probably a matter of peoples opinion. :)
 
at4047
beyer m160
mxl v69
rca bk5 (find it where? these are old right)
what about tube mics (yes i know a can of worms)
reviews on the ntv
 
wasn't there a newer ribbon mic in the 3-500 range green or blue in color ith similar mounting at the aea r92
 
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