Metal melt down:) That's what I'm having!

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Ok Before I get to far with this I was hoping I could get a little help. I am having a hell if a time getting a mix out of this. It's a very old song that I just want to get down decent so I will have it in the future. The drums are basicly a click track until I can get our drummer over here. It's also missing some solo work. I am just trying to get the core of the song good so that I can move on.

If you have any suggestions please offer up cause I'm sort of lost. Oh and the vocals. I am sort of set on double tracking it because that's how I did it on the old fostex 4 track fifteen years ago.

It's called Disin-Bosom.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=589306

Thanks
F.S.
 
This mix is sitting pretty good so far, the addition of a real drummer will only make it that much better! Nice snare sound though (although repetitive) - what are you using?

Vocals and guitars each have their own space - both are sitting nicely.

Love the growl in the voice and in the guitar - compliment each other.....

Let us know when the solo and drums are added.

Good Tune Sir!

:) :D :) :D
 
Thanks Ido1957.

I'm glad you think it sounds ok. After just doing a accoustic song I am having a hard time. Distorted fast songs seem so much harder to mix.

I am using fruity loops for the drums. I export seach drum to a seperate track so I can mix and eq them seperatly. I have loaded several audio samples onto it as well. If my drummer stands me up too long I will have to do something with the samples. I'm not too worried about real drums with this song.

The addition of real drums my not be as good as you think.. remember whose recording them;) I hate recording drums and I need a d112 somthing fierce;)

Would love to get some more opinions.. Jump in, please.


Thanks again.

F.S.
 
Sounds like a good start....For me guitars could be louder....and maybe thicker. Not sure what you have in mind, but thicker guitars might go better with the vocals. Just a small nit, as I like pretty heavy guitars... :D

You might try eq'ing some of teh highs out of eh guitars, and then bringing the volume up, and see if that still leaves some space for vox and bass. If not, oh well..... :cool:
 
Dogman said:
Sounds like a good start....For me guitars could be louder....and maybe thicker. Not sure what you have in mind, but thicker guitars might go better with the vocals. Just a small nit, as I like pretty heavy guitars... :D

You might try eq'ing some of teh highs out of eh guitars, and then bringing the volume up, and see if that still leaves some space for vox and bass. If not, oh well..... :cool:
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Thanks Dogman. I have a hard time getting a thick guitar sound. I will give your suggestions a shot.

The hardest thing is leaving some deffinition in the guitar (being such a fast song) and having the guitar fit as well. The guitar is always bouncing off the E in this song I am trying to keep that audible.

thanks again
F.S.
 
Here are som lyrics. Just because they are so uplifting;)


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About "Disin Bosom":
I was pissed




DISIN-BOSOM
WRITTEN BY: DAVID EPPERLY, SUMMER 1990


CREATOR OF YOUR OWN DEMISE
THE SUN FALLS FROM YOUR SKY
LEAVING YOU IN DARKNESS
WRITE ME ANOTHER FAIRY TALE
SO I CAN RIP IT FROM THE PAGE
DISPLAY MY RAGE
AT YOUR DEMENTED COMFORT WITH YOUR SELF
HONESTY AND OPENNESS
IT’S ALL I REALLY WANTED
NOW THE HUNTER BECOMES THE HUNTED
I THROW FORTH MY PAIN UPON YOUR WORLD

(CHORUS)
MAYBE I CARE TOO MUCH
WHERE OTHER PEOPLE DO NOT GIVE A DAMN
MAYBE I’M A GOD
TRAPPED IN THIS HELLISH WORLD OR MAN
MAYBE A FOOL
SUCKED INTO THE PART I PLAY
BUT MAYBE ITS YOU
WHO WILL SUFFER MORE COME JUDGMENT DAY

CREATOR OF THE SITUATION
TEMPTER OF FATE
BRING OF YOUR DEGRADATION
NOW IT’S TOO LATE
MY INNARDS CHURN WITH PAIN
THERE’S NOTHING I CAN DO
BUT I WILL NOT TAKE THE BLAME
NOW IT FALLS ON YOU

(REPEAT CHORUS)

WITH A QUIET WHISPER, I COULD
MAKE THE SMILE FALL FROM YOU FACE
WALK AWAY AND LEAVE YOU
WITHIN YOUR MOUTH A ROTTED TASTE

WITHOUT A FLAME, I COULD
BURN YOU FORM THE INSIDE OUT
USING ONLY SHAME
LEAVE YOUR EMOTIONS DISINBOULD

(SOLO)
 
Cool tune. For me it needs more panning, it almost sounds mono. Vox could be a tad louder. Its a bit hard to hear the words. Good energy and vibe.
 
DavidK said:
Cool tune. For me it needs more panning, it almost sounds mono. Vox could be a tad louder. Its a bit hard to hear the words. Good energy and vibe.
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Thanks David. Ya it does need to get stereo. I will work on that. The vocals are doubled but the underlying track is squashed to try and keep the effect the same throughout the song as much as possible.
I had to put a volume envelope on both voc tracks and drop one here and raise the other in the same spot and visa versa all the way through the song. I think I have it better now. will see what I can get away with as far as panning those off a bit. I will also see what I can do with the drums when I get them done.

I might try using a stereo imager on the guitar and see if I get anywhere with that.

Thanks for the input.
 
hey i like it a lot. cool vocal style and a punishing locomotive guitar riff. put some full-band-riot style backing vocals and this could easily be a vintage misfits song. i know youre not planning on keeping it, but the repetitive drum beat gives it a vintage punk vibe that fits the song very well. throw in some hats and crashes and youve got a cool song. great job. :cool:
 
Thanks Greg:

The original was pretty much just the same. In fact I'm trying to make it as close to what I did 15 years or so ago on the 4 track.


Thanks again

I'll let everybody know when I put the next update on.

F.S.
 
I love it!If you put a bit of rasp in your voice,it would sound a bit like Lemmie!
 
beezelbubba said:
I love it!If you put a bit of rasp in your voice,it would sound a bit like Lemmie!
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LoL! It's all I can do to sing it. There's more rasp there than you might think. I think the double tracking covers it some. It would be easier for me to rasp in a lower register too.

Thanks
 
OK Here's a mix that I think is getting there.

I updated the mix and I need some opinions on it. I will post the link and the lyrics below.

This is proving a bit hard to mix after just doing a love song :D

beezelbubba give it another listen and see if it seems better to you or not.

Thanks

F.S.

The track is "Disin Bosom"

http://www.soundclick.com/pro/view/01/default.cfm?bandID=589306&content=music

Lyrics: Sorry they are all in caps. That's how I did it years ago for ease. Although it probly fits for this song ;)


DISIN-BOSOM
WRITTEN BY: DAVID EPPERLY, SUMMER 1990


CREATOR OF YOUR OWN DEMISE
THE SUN FALLS FROM YOUR SKY
LEAVING YOU IN DARKNESS
WRITE ME ANOTHER FAIRY TALE
SO I CAN RIP IT FROM THE PAGE
DISPLAY MY RAGE
AT YOUR DEMENTED COMFORT WITH YOUR SELF
HONESTY AND OPENNESS
IT’S ALL I REALLY WANTED
NOW THE HUNTER BECOMES THE HUNTED
I THROW FORTH MY PAIN UPON YOUR WORLD

(CHORUS)
MAYBE I CARE TOO MUCH
WHERE OTHER PEOPLE DO NOT GIVE A DAMN
MAYBE I’M A GOD
TRAPPED IN THIS HELLISH WORLD OF MAN
MAYBE A FOOL
SUCKED INTO THE PART I PLAY
BUT MAYBE IT'S YOU
WHO WILL SUFFER MORE COME JUDGMENT DAY

CREATOR OF THE SITUATION
TEMPTER OF FATE
BRING OF YOUR DEGRADATION
NOW IT’S TOO LATE
MY INNARDS CHURN WITH PAIN
THERE’S NOTHING I CAN DO
BUT I WILL NOT TAKE THE BLAME
NOW IT FALLS ON YOU

(REPEAT CHORUS)

WITH A QUIET WHISPER, I COULD
MAKE THE SMILE FALL FROM YOU FACE
WALK AWAY AND LEAVE YOU
WITHIN YOUR MOUTH A ROTTED TASTE

WITHOUT A FLAME, I COULD
BURN YOU FORM THE INSIDE OUT
USING ONLY SHAME
LEAVE YOUR EMOTIONS DISINBOULD

(SOLO)
 
Nice playing.

The drums don't have any hats. Only cymbals in places. The hat will add much to brighten it up.
 
bigbubba said:
Nice playing.

The drums don't have any hats. Only cymbals in places. The hat will add much to brighten it up.
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Thanks Bigbubba!

On the hats, Ya I know :( I will try to incorperate some hat in.

What do you think about maybe a ride instead?

F.S.
 
Freudian Slip said:
Thanks Bigbubba!

On the hats, Ya I know :( I will try to incorperate some hat in.

What do you think about maybe a ride instead?

F.S.
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yeah a ride throughout would be cool.

still sounds good overall - i love the riff and vocals - but i dont particularly like the newly added cymbal crashes. they just dont sound real enough at all. its coming along nicely though. that really is a smokin' song. :cool:
 
Freudian Slip said:
Thanks Bigbubba!

On the hats, Ya I know :( I will try to incorperate some hat in.

What do you think about maybe a ride instead?

F.S.
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Ride thru-out might get annoying. I tend to like rides better in bridges, intervals, and so on. Mix of hats and rides might be cool. :)

Also, try with just rides, and see how people respond. See how you respond after listening to it for a week in the car. :)
 
Greg_L said:
yeah a ride throughout would be cool.

still sounds good overall - i love the riff and vocals - but i dont particularly like the newly added cymbal crashes. they just dont sound real enough at all. its coming along nicely though. that really is a smokin' song. :cool:
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But they are real :( :D :D :D God I need new over heads! It was me doing it to not our drummer. I might not have been a bit timmid. I may have cutt them to close too. No verb either.


Well I am working something right now up soon.

f.s.
 
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