Metal band im tracking : Song 3

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I got some really good advice on the last 2 songs i posted so i decided to run this one through the clinic as well. This is my initial mix so im expecting to have to make some adjustments. A few things that i already know about are:
there are few spaces i need to clean up, noise in blank area, singer making noise when no vocals are taking place lol.
Scream vocals are a little sibilant in places, tried to keep him from doing it, but it just wasn't happening.
OK so any mix comments are greatly appreciated as always.

The song is called No solution
http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/album.php?aid=3299&alid=-1
 
Overall the mix sounds good to me. I don't like the sound of the kick drum though; it seems a little overcompressed. Or maybe it's just not a good sounding drum (to me). The cymbals in the intro sounded cool.
 
This is a good first mix. I like the sound of the kick, the snare sounds too plain though. I would add more reverb. I like your first two recordings of this band much more than I do this one :(.
 
im an idiot

Sorry about that last post. I just realized someone turned on the WOW Effects in my windows media player. So I turned em off and had another listen and the kick sounds fine. I should pay more drug free attention. Later.
 
FattMusiek said:
This is a good first mix. I like the sound of the kick, the snare sounds too plain though. I would add more reverb. I like your first two recordings of this band much more than I do this one :(.
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I agree about the snare... I doubt it could be fixed in the mix though. It's the drum itself... The group sounds nice and tight! Who are these guys?

- Tanlith -
 
Wireneck, I have said it before and i will say it again. Your stuff is my favorite on this board. Your band is really good. This song however seemed to be a little more unstructured than your others. It is a bit quirky, but still awesome. The sound of the mix is not quite as good as the other two you have posted but still really good. I would have given your other two songs 10 stars but that isn't possible. I give it 5 stars. I noticed the toms don't sound the same as the other recordings you have done. What have you changed. Anywho post more, post more. And i have another In Flames cover in the works that i want you to check out when i post, cause i know you like them. Later
 
It sucks! (still mad at ya, of course)


LOL :D


Nah, I'm kiddin'.


Sounds good, as usual. Agree with Analytical Man. Sounds less good but I don't know why....sorry. :)


There's a click at 3:21, song 2 so to speak.
 
oh boy

it seems that the overal consensus is that this mix isn't up to par with my other two. Now the real question is what can i do to fix it?
The drum sound is different because I was in a cover band with the same drummer for a short period. When we were recording our cover band demo we decided to kill two birds with one stone and knock out the drum tracks for this one (bad idea). Ill try adding some more reverb to the snare, it definantly has a bad sound that i don't think im going to be able to hide. Im not sure whats going on with the toms either, ill see if i can eq them differently.
Tanlith- the band is Wireneck, Im the guitar player. There are two more finished songs for our new cd floating around on here somewhere. Do a search on my username if you want to check them out.
Analytical man- thanks for the compliments. Which In flames song are you doing next?
Pedullist-thanks for listening. I think the pops are introduced by my mp3 encoder. Im not sure why though.
AntiJ and Fatmusiek - thanks for listening.
 
Man, they are tight! Sounds a lot like Megadeth. The bass drum to me sounds pretty good. The snare just sounds to me like the snares just need to be brought up. You could probably fix it with some eq . How did you mic the drums? 4 tracks? If the snare is on it's own track you should be good to go. Everything else sounds good!
Jason
 
jason

thanks for the listen. The drums were actually done on 6 tracks. snare, kick, 12" tom , 16" floor tom and 2 overheads. Im still fooling with the snare eq trying to get it where its a little more listenable. Its been a while since we did the actual tracking for these drums so im guessing that the current sound is the result of bad mic placement and a bad choice of snare drum/tuning.
Can't say that I was ever into megadeth but ill take it as a compliment. Im only 20 so they were a little bit before my time. Good guitars from what i can remember.
 
Wow! you've got an amazing group, and everything sounds great to me. I thought the drums were too far up front though.
 
I agree about the snare but it isnt real bad. Maybe some verb and Eq wouldnt hurt to try... I liked the song:D Some good stuff. Reminds me of some Metal Church.
Myx
 
2nd mix

I got a remix posted with some different eq on the snare and toms. I did it really quick before i went to work tonight but listening back now, i think i have the snare and toms too far up front. Anyhow is the sound any better now? I realize both the snare and toms need to come back some.
Prizmaxic- thanks for the compliments. We get very little praise in our area because we live in Jam-band central.
Tanlith- thanks for the support. Ill let you know when we've got everything ready. I think were sticking to a 4-5 song ep this time, so its almost good to go.
Myx62- thanks for the listen, metal church? lol , i have no clue. I guess im just too young.
 
More killer tunage!

I can see where this tune would be a bitch to mix. Lot goin' on in there..

The snare definately needs more "crack" in this. Sounds like it wasn't being hit real consistent in a few spots either. That makes it hard to compress without killing the transients. Attack & release times will be critical. The drums seem to be lacking a bit of presence overall as well. That could just be the MP3 though.

Your guitar sound is good as usual.:) Would like to hear those harmony lines around 4:00 a bit more up front.

The balance on the low-end is pretty good. Maybe just a tad heavy down there.
 
thanks M.brane and Mac2

There is definantly an issue with consistency on the snare. Our drummer beats the hell out of his kit but the amount he dishes out on the snare varys greatly. M.Brane you say the snare needs more "crack" is there something i can do Eq wise? Any suggestions? I tried to mess with it but the way it is on mix 2 was about the best i could come up with. Ill try fooling with the compression some more.
I thought the harmonies might be a little buried but i was waiting to see if anyone said anything.
Bass heavy on the kick and bass guitar or both? I have a really hard time judging on my event monitors. Thanks for the listen.
Oh yeah are the snare and toms too far out front in mix 2?
 
Without being able to hear your dry snare track it's hard to be specific.

The basic idea is to bring out/level out the sound of the stick & strainer without creating artifacts. That's why you'll want to play with the attack & release times. I don't pay much attention to the actual times myself. I usually set the ratio & threshold where I can hear the compressor working, then dail in the attack & release. Once I find the right timing then I'll back off on the ratio & threshold. It ends up wherever it sounds best.;) I know that doesn't help that much, but that's how I do it. Trust the ears.

For EQ I would try a cut down in the "mud" range (100-300hz) first. I that doesn't work by itself try boosting a bit up around 5-7K as well.

The mix seemed a bit bottom heavy in general, but don't take that as absolute. My Altecs are disconnected at the moment, and my JBL's don't have the greatest low-end. It's there, just not real accurate.
 
Ok i just tried to listen to version 2 remixed and it said the file wasn't found, are you still uploading it?

I listened to the first version earlier and I agree with what was said earlier, your band is hittin it hard. Love that. One thing I wanna suggest to the singer is I know even though the screamed vocal thing is pretty prevalent in the genre, try shying away from it. I love heavy music but i have never been able to really favor the screaming when the rest of the band is working so hard on constructing something melodic.

Anyway, keep up the good work.
 
thanks guys

m. brane- i appreciate the help man. I tried to implement some of your comments in the 3rd mix. Hopefully this is a step in the right direction.
Khompewter- i think i had it checked off where only members could dl mix 2 . Maybe thats what was wrong? Ill pass on the comment about singing more to our vocalist. I appreciate the listen man.
Does the 3rd mix sound about right? I feel like its closer but i don't know.
 
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