maudio hardware decision

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would there be any conflicts with having two delta 44's? or would I be better off with a delta 1010?

conflicts would include: sending the signal out to the same pair of monitors, track skipping, etc.
 
i hope you are also emailing maudio tech support? i would trust their response most.
 
NOT TWO DELTA 44s!!!!!!!

You need to slave one's clock off the other ... or you'll have all kinds of hilarious sound problems. The Delta 66 allows you to link the two cards by the SPDIF connections and they will be synched. The 44 has no such facility, and so whilst it will quite happily allow you to have two 44s in the same system, should you be recording a drum kit with the inputs split over the two cards, you will essentially have them sampling at very slightly different times to each other, opening the door for possible comb filtering and/or phase issues.

Get a pair of Delta 66s, or go for one with more inputs.

I have a 44, btw, and wish I'd shelled out for the 66 to start with now. :)
 
I'd go with a single card with more i/o's...if nothing else, you save pci slots in the computer. The 1010 or the 1010LT would be my pick.
 
I think I remember reading in the M-Audio FAQ that the Delta 44 can be slaved entirely to another 44 through software, at least under certain operating systems. I don't know which OS you're running, so I can't say for sure....

That said, get the 1010 anyway. In the long run, you'll probably be much happier.
 
noisedude said:
I have a 44, btw, and wish I'd shelled out for the 66 to start with now. :)
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i did the same as you, 'cept i DId shell out for a 66 :p. i'm tempted to add another.

Andy
 
All Delta series cards are synched together with their drivers (just look at the M-Audio control panel - you can synch up to 4 cards). You don't need SPDIF to sync them.

I would personally go with a 1010 rather than 2 44s because 2 cards obviously will use up 2 IRQs which could lead to problems down the road.
 
does that mean i could add a 1010 and it could work with me 66, giving me a grand total of 14 inputs/outputs? without any problems?

Andy
 
andydeedpoll said:
does that mean i could add a 1010 and it could work with me 66, giving me a grand total of 14 inputs/outputs? without any problems?

Andy
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Yes. Asuming you won't run into IRQ sharing issues.
 
brzilian said:
All Delta series cards are synched together with their drivers (just look at the M-Audio control panel - you can synch up to 4 cards). You don't need SPDIF to sync them.
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That's not true! This has been discussed many times and I discussed it with M-Audio's technical staff myself. There is NO way of slaving the hardware clock via software ...

HR.com member Lemontree has a pile of 1010s and 410s in his system, giving him tonnes of outputs and enough inputs to match his desk. They are all slaved correctly though.

As I said, you can happily have two in the same PC, and control them from the same driver utility, however, the only way of synching them is to slave their clocks where a facility to do so is available. On the Delta 44, there is none ... on the Delta 66, there is the SPDIF. On different interfaces you will find dedicated clock connectors.

If you were never to use the different cards on the same source in the same take (i.e. a drum kit with six mics would use both cards), you'd be ok. However, it seems a pointless limitation when you can have the 1010lt for not much more than a 66, the only cost being balanced connections in a breakout box. The full 1010 remains a very good value card ... as does some of the E-Mu stuff if you can bear being a Creative customer. :)
 
Andy,

just get the delta 1010. It is rock stable, sounds great, and it's expandable. I've been using one for 3 years and I've not had a single problem. :D
 
noisedude said:
That's not true! This has been discussed many times and I discussed it with M-Audio's technical staff myself. There is NO way of slaving the hardware clock via software ...
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Then M-Audio's knowledge base is lying....

http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=support.faq&ID=8e8f75bd04d1e9a27d16e263a00b6b1d

The Operating Systems Windows 2000/XP support "KernelSync" and do not necessarily need the external connection using S/PDIF. Delta 44 can only be stacked in these Operating Systems, since this card does not have a S/PDIF connector. For this type of Operation, all cards have to be set to "Multiple Card Sync".
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Like I said, it depends on what OS you're running... unless their FAQ is lying.
 
Just get an Onyx with Firewire and be done with it! I have a Mackie 1620 with the Firewire. It is awesome and can download all 16 channels at once over the Firewire. :) :) Otherwise I would do the 1010!
 
I have delta's 1010, and 410 running in the same machine. No problems, stable as can be, kernelSync is a dream come true... s/pdif sync is good for my gigastudio, but that is a different computer all together... :D
 
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