Mastering Yourself?

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Who masters your recordings?

  • Me

    Votes: 118 84.3%
  • Online Service

    Votes: 14 10.0%
  • Nearby Recording Studio

    Votes: 8 5.7%

  • Total voters
    140
Hey,
all details are here:
Red Mastering Studio
price per album is 199 UK pounds,
EP - 99,-
single - 25 UK,-
if it's more songs -we can discuss some discount:)


Hey Red how much do you charge per song, and per album for a master. I just seen your website and I like what I see would like to see if I could work with you.
 
ok what is single 25 UK lbs is that $40?
I run a recording studio here in Dallas TX, StadiuMusic Studio's. I record and mix a lot of artist here in the metroplex. Also if I like the work would it be ok if I send your info to other artist and other record labels to use? Also how do you want the break down of the mix?

When I mixdown a song I mixdown "EVERYTHING" all separate audio groups into WAV Files; All Drums or Bass of the beat, All Music or mids and highs of the beat, Vocals and Fx delays and reverb all bounced down in separate audio files 48K or 92k/24bit. I record and mix Hip Hop and Pop music the bass tends to override the vocals and certain instances in the songs "AFTER" the master. Not satisfied with some mastering studio's here in the state I am very pick because I have unique producers with some wired sometimes funky beats. I would like to try you out plus the UK you guys are the originators of this whole mastering thing. Also the mixdown of the song. How do you want the mixdown as far as breakdown file size ect? How do i pay you can i pay you PayPal?
 
I think we should move to private communication,
as it's discussion forum and it could be wrongly interpreted:)
Please email me with all questions, I am happy to answer -
filip@redmastering.co.uk

all the best
ok what is single 25 UK lbs is that $40?
I run a recording studio here in Dallas TX, StadiuMusic Studio's. I record and mix a lot of artist here in the metroplex. Also if I like the work would it be ok if I send your info to other artist and other record labels to use? Also how do you want the break down of the mix?

When I mixdown a song I mixdown "EVERYTHING" all separate audio groups into WAV Files; All Drums or Bass of the beat, All Music or mids and highs of the beat, Vocals and Fx delays and reverb all bounced down in separate audio files 48K or 92k/24bit. I record and mix Hip Hop and Pop music the bass tends to override the vocals and certain instances in the songs "AFTER" the master. Not satisfied with some mastering studio's here in the state I am very pick because I have unique producers with some wired sometimes funky beats. I would like to try you out plus the UK you guys are the originators of this whole mastering thing. Also the mixdown of the song. How do you want the mixdown as far as breakdown file size ect? How do i pay you can i pay you PayPal?
 
I think we should move to private communication,
as it's discussion forum and it could be wrongly interpreted:)
Please email me with all questions, I am happy to answer -
filip@redmastering.co.uk

all the best
ok what is single 25 UK lbs is that $40?
I run a recording studio here in Dallas TX, StadiuMusic Studio's. I record and mix a lot of artist here in the metroplex. Also if I like the work would it be ok if I send your info to other artist and other record labels to use? Also how do you want the break down of the mix?

When I mixdown a song I mixdown "EVERYTHING" all separate audio groups into WAV Files; All Drums or Bass of the beat, All Music or mids and highs of the beat, Vocals and Fx delays and reverb all bounced down in separate audio files 48K or 92k/24bit. I record and mix Hip Hop and Pop music the bass tends to override the vocals and certain instances in the songs "AFTER" the master. Not satisfied with some mastering studio's here in the state I am very pick because I have unique producers with some wired sometimes funky beats. I would like to try you out plus the UK you guys are the originators of this whole mastering thing. Also the mixdown of the song. How do you want the mixdown as far as breakdown file size ect? How do i pay you can i pay you PayPal?
 
Whatever you do, always get a free preview from a few mastering engineers. It has recently come to my attention that some "mastering studios" have engineers that are asking incredibly embarrassing questions on audio forums that first month audio engineering school students would be expected to have been asking. Let it be known that there is a gulf of knowledge between those who have had years of professional experience and those who ????................ exactly.

There are some very ropey operators at the lower end of the price table so :

GET A MASTERING PREVIEW AND DO NOT DIVE IN !

cheers

SafeandSound Mastering
music mastering
 
Side-stepped disagreement -- I'd have to hire 2 additional engineers just to handle the number of unsolicited (a.k.a. "bulk" e-mails sent to a dozen different places with "Dear Sir" at the head) sample requests that come in here. Many would find sites that have "Free Sample!!!" all over them as a reason to be cautious.

And without a doubt, some of the least qualified places I know offer free samples. One or two of them (that I know of) actually solicit samples from other mastering facilities for various 'marketing' (for lack of a better term) reasons. Point being, offering - or not offering samples doesn't necessarily indicate professionalism or qualification.

That said -- YES INDEEEEED, there are some very ropey (assuming "ropey" means "less than obviously qualified") operators out there... They're friggin' everywhere. Just had my gear list pulled from one of them (again...) a few days ago.

Well, not my entire gear list -- Everything except the monitors (they had their KRK Rockit G2's on the page). But I digress...

Of course, I'm not suggesting not using common sense -- If there are no verifiable credits, if there is no engineer named, if the gear list and the photos don't have anything in common, if there's a $75,000 gear selection and a $99 price tag - Sure - those are definitely reasons to be suspicious.

Back to the point - there are plenty of qualified facilities out there that don't offer samples -- Due diligence is the responsibility of the client also -- I don't mix often anymore, but when I do, I decide on who will be doing the mastering based on what I'm looking for - I'm not sending out sample requests to a collection of various engineers to see which one can happen to pull it through the garden the best in one shot -- I'm looking into past experience, credits, a gear selection I'm comfortable with, etc. Just as anyone who is serious about their own work should do.

I remember when this "sample craze" first started whipping up -- It was just several years ago. I'm still waiting for restaurants to offer free samples of different steaks when you walk in so you can decide which steak you want -- Or if you even want to dine there. Or gas stations could start offering a free gallon of gas before you fill up to see if your car runs better (and of course, there would be a certain population that would go from station to station collecting free gallons). One colleague describes it as "Going downtown and asking h**kers for free bl*wjobs" before you decide which one to spend an hour with" --

Personally, I think it does more harm than good to the industry as a whole and I'm looking forward to the day it fades away. That and the end of the volume war.

And let me explain that - as it seems somewhat contrary to my hardcore red-white-and-blue-blooded fair-market capitalist leanings ---

The "free sample" thing is what actually allows the "ropey" types to compete where otherwise, they wouldn't have that avenue available. So instead of a "normal" economic matrix running the show, you have a certain population (let's call them "rookie engineers" and not in a condescending way) that are looking for mastering services -- and a whole bunch of "rookie mastering engineers" - hardly more qualified than the original rookies, trying to supply those services.

As 90% of the time, they're really only serving each other (as the "RM's" can impress the "RE's" simply by slapping a Sonic Maximizer into a cracked L2 and they think they're getting a quality product), they're expanding the "low end" of the spectrum - The median quality bar is going down while the overall industry gets watered down. And that eventually leads to (and it's already happened) the biggest places with the most qualified engineers to downsize, go out of business, drastically cut back on their rates to compete, etc.

And the competition part isn't the problem -- Much of it stems from nasty amounts of software piracy ($8,000 plugin collections - $200 monitoring chains), which impresses the less experienced clientele (again, lowering the bar) and it all slides downhill from there. There's a difference between "fair competition" and "lawless scumbags who should be thrown in jail for theft" -- there are far too many of those.

And of course -- They're the ones that started the "free samples" call years ago.
 
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My samples blow rookie engineers away thats why I offer them because it demonstrates my confidence and experience as an engineer.
These days finding the time to do free previews is more difficult simply because paid work is prioritized and I have a lot of it. I always get to them in the end but they are sometimes 14 days off. Free preview has won me a hell of a lot of jobs and I consider myself a serious mastering engineer. There is no black and white situation regarding previews because most have done it and had varying levels of success. Many reasons why it worked or not for others I guess.

cheers

SafeandSound Mastering
Online mastering studio
 
I've used to online services for geographic reasons.
I used 2. Both were selected after hearing their completed work for others, (& where possible having a conversation with other clients), and after spending some time sussing them out about prices & services personally.
Both offered revisions within the "package" and both were very reasonably priced.
One is an M.E. who offers mixing as well as mastering (including stem) the other is a producer with a longish history who also moved into mastering through an holistic approach to the recording process who also offers mixing and mastering (including stem).
Now, I know that some will poo poo the idea of a producer mastering but he didn't produce the project; he mastered it so had some distance from it and was able to bring his ears & knowledge to the task.
Fran Ashcroft
* Happy Beat *
Mastering * Happy Beat *
Jan Ohlhorst
fine mastering
Why 2 different mastering services? Simply to obtain perspective, experience and hear the difference that can be made by & between 2 professionals.
Rates for both were very similar - & despite it seeming that way - I don't have money to splash around so cost was a factor but I wasn't going to fall into a false economy of paying little for less either.
Both were free with suggestions, advice and creativity. Neither took exception to my declining any such offer.
Both are great in the communication & customer service end as well as producing masters that I was extremely pleased with.
I wish I could do it myself, but I know my ears aren't up to it & my gear/software is small potatoes plus my room is a long way from a critical listening environment.
 
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