Man. I miss the sound of a needle on a record....

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for people that have always taken good care of their records (me) and especially those that have a record cleaning machine (again me) , records sounding scratchy is a myth.
Almost NONE of my 6000 albums are scratchy sounding .... any that are get replaced ...... and I have 40 year old records that have been played many times that, while not silent like a CD, are pretty damned quiet.
 
AND I miss the fact that you could de-seed a whole ounce of pot with an album. Try THAT with a CD!
 
A few years ago I bought my final statement HI-FI system, inclusive of a decent turntable (Mitchell Mycro) and amp (Pathos Classic one).
I still have all my vinyls and over the years some have been "doubled" with CD version.
As of today I have yet to find a CD that will better (or equal) the sound of vinyl. This also according to all friends who did have a listenins session here.
My CD player is also not bad, costing almost twice as much as the Mycro...
What's more.. a vinyl with a scratch on 1 track can still be played (skip that track if the scratch's too big).. try that with a CD.
 
Yeah - but what's up with this?

I was listening to a classic rock station yesterday on a home stereo set up while painting the barn when I thought of this thread.

I could not find any fault with the sound quality of any of those classic songs yet I am very sure that these stations are all digital now. How can this be?
 
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Stanton STR8-150 :)
 
moresound said:
I was listening to a classic rock station yesterday on a home stereo set up while painting the barn when I thought of this thread.

I could not find any fault with the sound quality of any of those classic songs yet I am very sure that these stations are all digital now. How can this be?
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Simple....the analog vs digital debate is blown way out of proportion.....especially since radio stations compress and limit the shit out of everything anyway.
 
I notice that my local classic rock station sounds different in the morning than at night.I work 3rd shift and on the way to work my ears havn't been exposed to noise since i basically sleep into the early evening.I work in a noisy enviroment and do wear earplugs but i still get some ringing in the ears.

On the way home the same station at the same volume sounds a lot more pronounced in the treble range.Almost like the dj is using more compression or an exciter where the night time dj may have to keep it down a bit.Maybe they just don't broadcast as loud during night time but we all have volume knobs anyway.

I've noticed a big difference in the sound of guitars too.How the tube amps have the crunch and bite,and not over the top saturated distortion like some of the modern stuff.Since getting into home recording i know i listen to everything differently but there's a clear difference here.I think it's a volume war competition between the local stations and the louder = better scenario plays out once again.
 
RAMI said:
I even miss where the records I'd wear out would skip.....

I don't know why I'm posting this. I figure listening to it has got to be educational in some way.

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I feel exactly the same so I went and bought a turntable...we have two fairly decent record stores in my neighbourhood and Ive been scouring ebay buying albums I consider classics

gonna have to keep it a small collection for moving but its fun, the nostalgia value is worth it alone...most of the stuff Im getting is mint and around $15-20...now i hear the needle first and anything pre CD seems to sound better :)
 
fat_fleet said:
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Stanton STR8-150 :)
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nice deck...I already have a stanton scs 1d for live stuff so I added a t62b...kinda a cheapo but im not sure, or wasnt sure, how much use Im going to get...sounds pretty good....mind you my last deck was a Dual back in the mid eighties :eek: so I cant remember what quality sounds like
 
Lt. Bob said:
for people that have always taken good care of their records (me) and especially those that have a record cleaning machine (again me) , records sounding scratchy is a myth.
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I think this is true, for the most part. Whenever I bought records from new, there was rarely any scratchiness or hissiness except in the bizarre case of Queen's "Live killers" which, with both copies I had {one new, one not}, had a horrible set of scratches in exactly the same places.
However, most of my records were second hand because they were cheaper most of the time and believe it or not, the second hand shops had a far greater number of LPs and choice. Many of the records I acquired were rare or deleted so you couldn't find them in mainstream shops. Unfortunately, they weren't always in good nick. One had to make do with the foibles of previous owners, but it was worth it to have records I wouldn't otherwise have had/heard {this was all pre~ internet}.
 
I don't own a records cleaning machine (wish I did.. wish I did) but I simply clean them every time before and after listening.
I still have the first LP I've ever bought 41 years ago. It is heavier and thicker that today's records. It cost the equivalents of 3$ (it was a sale).
There's not a single scratch on it and the noise floor in bare minimun (audible mostly in between tracks). And what a sound!!! Warm, enbracing, vibrant. Life-like.
It is a "spirituals" compilation, by the way.
 
mcmetal said:
I notice that my local classic rock station sounds different in the morning than at night.I work 3rd shift and on the way to work my ears havn't been exposed to noise since i basically sleep into the early evening.I work in a noisy enviroment and do wear earplugs but i still get some ringing in the ears.

On the way home the same station at the same volume sounds a lot more pronounced in the treble range.Almost like the dj is using more compression or an exciter where the night time dj may have to keep it down a bit.Maybe they just don't broadcast as loud during night time but we all have volume knobs anyway.
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I think it's your ears. I find that if I leave my car stereo set where it is when I get home at night (after listening to, say, an AC/DC CD on the way home), that is blows me out of the vehicle when I start the car the next AM.
 
kcearl said:
nice deck...I already have a stanton scs 1d for live stuff so I added a t62b...kinda a cheapo but im not sure, or wasnt sure, how much use Im going to get...sounds pretty good....mind you my last deck was a Dual back in the mid eighties :eek: so I cant remember what quality sounds like
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Yeah man, I've had it for a few years and I'm real happy with it. It's magnet-driven, weighs like 40 lbs and just seems really solid. When I first got it I threw away like three cheapo Technics belt-drive decks with assorted problems and it's been smooth sailing since. This one might just outlive me!
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Holy crap. I've never seen a scs1d before- that thing looks intense!
 
redhoney said:
I still have the first LP I've ever bought 41 years ago. It is heavier and thicker that today's records.
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But that has more to do with the pressing conventions of the label than when it was released. 180-gram reissues of old classics are coming out all the time. And there were plenty of cheap vinyls in the 70s. I love the Kinks' "Muswell Hillbillies" but every vinyl copy I've ever seen was pressed on that cheap wobbly RCA Dynaflex.... so I usually pass on it.
 
fat_fleet said:
But that has more to do with the pressing conventions of the label than when it was released. 180-gram reissues of old classics are coming out all the time. And there were plenty of cheap vinyls in the 70s.
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Also, different pressings from different countries had different weights. I remember my copy of "Meddle" by Pink Floyd. You could kill a man with that, it was so heavy. And I still joke about my Portuguese pressing of Fleetwood Mac's "Rumours". It's probably the only artifact that could destroy an SM58 !
fat_fleet said:
I love the Kinks' "Muswell Hillbillies"
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I have long thought that that is one of the best album titles I've come across. The Davies brothers and Pete Quaife were from Muswell Hill. I used to live in the area next to it, Bounds Green. Muswell Hill is aptly named because no matter which direction you approach it from, you're climbing a hill. The Muswell hill itself is a beast. I rode my bike up there once, 30 years ago. Never again. Like climbing Everest ! Even in a car or van, it's so steep, third gear runs out of puff real quick but you never get to go fast enough for fourth.
 
I do own this cleaner and it works great. Not a easy as a $500 automatic, but hey its some exercise too.

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