MAKING a kick speaker thing

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I have read that a lot of people like using the speaker from a Yamaha NS10 for a Kick Mic.
I remember reading In TapeOp that someone used that as well.
 
timboZ said:
I have read that a lot of people like using the speaker from a Yamaha NS10 for a Kick Mic.
I remember reading In TapeOp that someone used that as well.
I think the kick speaker thing (for which we still do not have a name) that Yamaha makes is an NS-10 woofer.
 
Tim Brown said:
Is th speaker that you are using brand new, or is it in a speaker cabinet?
Tim

Its a cheap tanglewood amp that i've taken apart, and i'll be using the speaker from that. I'll be keeping the speaker in the small cab it came in for the moment. As a tester.

Then if it does work brilliantly i might invest in the better speaker...

Does anybody have any clips of drums with the speaker in action?
 
Nice link timboZ I really like the sound of that. Unfortuntaly i dont have 15 inputs, let alone 15 mics that are good quaility!!! lol.

I'll do the best i can. The kick sounds nice, I'm thinking i'll use the kick woofer (possible name for it???) with a crap mic I have but managed to achive good results.
 
ggunn said:
When I was a kid back in the 60's, my parents had an intercom installed between the house and an outbuilding. There was a push-to-talk button on the wall unit in the outbuilding that my dad told me converted the speaker to a microphone by swapping some wires around. Wheels turned in my head.

Not too long after that, I "invented" the electric guitar by taping a 4 inch speaker over the sound hole of my old Silvertone acoustic guitar and sticking the bare wires from it into the phono inputs of an old tube record player/radio combo. I also immediately discovered feedback.



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Right, I had a spare moment today and started building it, took about 10min.

I've got to do a bit more to it, in the mean time do we have amy more clips of it in action? It didnt sound brilliant on the clip posted before.

Anybody got any? Oh and name for it - kick woofer?
 
drummerdude666 said:
There is no audio there...is there meant to be? Or was it a link showing the yamaha sub kick?

No audio. I just saw it and tought I would pass it on.




More info that I found.

A Different Direction

Just introduced at Summer NAMM 2003, the Yamaha Subkick is a unique mic designed to capture audio below 100Hz. Subkick uses a standard loudspeaker (which looks very much like a NS-10M woofer to me!) in combination with a drum shell. The 6.5-inch woofer (frequency response 20Hz to 8kHz) is shock-mounted inside a 7-ply maple shell fitted with black mesh heads.

Designer (and Yamaha drum artist) Russ Miller figures that the drum shell focuses sound waves in a strong, directional pattern through the speaker. The heads, although sonically invisible to those frequencies, add a small amount of sustain to the overall sound. There is a standard XLR mic connector and no phantom power is required.


To demonstrate at a demo you could actually hear, Yamaha had a simple PA/subwoofer setup with a Subkick on both the bass drum and floor tom. With or without regular drum mics, this system really works, adding loads of big bottom end and sustain. Sells for about $499 MSRP complete with stand.
 
Do a google groups search for Subkick Mic

Some good info on building one.
 
now, how deep does this subkick go?

how low do you want to go?
i sometimes filter out frequencies lower than 40hz on a kick...
does it really give a nasty deep Sub-sound? or is it "just another mic for the kickdrum...."
 
earworm said:
now, how deep does this subkick go?

how low do you want to go?
i sometimes filter out frequencies lower than 40hz on a kick...
does it really give a nasty deep Sub-sound? or is it "just another mic for the kickdrum...."

Its interesting. You hear it more on good systems and it doesn't show up much in say, desktop computer speakers. I mix mine with my main kick mic at about 1/6 the level. It just adds meat to it. I don't use it as the only kick mic. If I did, there wouldn't be any attack.
 
Phil Good do you have any, or could you get us come clips of the subkick on its own, then mixed with a Beta52 (or whatever you use) and then in the context of a mix?

I'd be really intrested to hear your results.
 
drummerdude666 said:
Phil Good do you have any, or could you get us come clips of the subkick on its own, then mixed with a Beta52 (or whatever you use) and then in the context of a mix?

I'd be really intrested to hear your results.


I'll be at my band's studio by myself on saturday. We have only done test recordings so far with the subkick. I'll throw something together. In the meantime here's one of the test recordings of just drums with the subkick. Its best to use good speakers to hear it.

Don't mind the playing as I was making hand gestures to the guitarist, who was at the mixer. (he doesn't know much about recording)

 
Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaassy! I like it.

What was the gear used for that? Mics, where were they placed? Any pre-amp? Also any mixing? Thanks PhilGood.
 
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