MAKING a kick speaker thing

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Well, didn't get to the studio today. Had to do other things. I might be there tomorrow, definately monday. I'll get samples then.

That recording was done with modified MXL V63's as overheads, a modified MXL 603s on high hat, 57s on all the toms, a Superlux ECO-H6A on snare(a cheap-o condenser mic that works pretty good on snare) and the bass drum is a Superlux FK-2 mixed with the sub-kick speaker mic. Its run through the built-in preamps of my Ramsa board with very little EQ. None on the toms, overheads and hat. Boosted 6khz and 2khz a bit on the snare. Boosted 5khz on the kick. The speaker mic is added at less than 20% of the level on the main kick mic with all high end rolled off. Speaker mics have a very high output. Its just there to fatten the kick. I also used an MCA SP1 for a room mic and added a tinge of reverb.

All this is mixed to a stereo track BTW. There's no separation to independant tracks. I can't yet afford a multi input system.
 
Oh, I forgot. I added a bit of compression to the kick and snare.
 
OK - here are my results......

...and if you ask me they're crap.



This is just the subkick into cubase. No EQ or anything... but still it's not low deep bass, it's a muffled......ermm.....something that really muffled....yup....*cough*...

So what did i do wrong? I don't get it :(
 
Well, what did you use for a speaker? Size and type? If I don't respond for a while, its 'cause I'll be on 'holiday' (vacation in the US) in Missouri. I'd love to help, though. Make sure its a woofer and not a full range speaker (I think a big magnet helps).

It should sound a little muffled (It can't capture the highs) but you should have a butt load of low end. Also, make sure the polarity is the opposite of what you would normaly do for a speaker, otherwise you'll have phase problems.

I might check in with my brother's laptop.

Phil
 
Yeh, i used a speaker from a tanglewood amp. I'm thinking of buying the studiospares version of the NS-10 which is only £20.

But any ideas why i'm not getting amazing results?
 
might be a dumb question, but do you think it would work with a subwoofer from a car stereo? a friend of mine has an old crappy 10" MTX subwoofer from his car just sitting there in his closet (the other one blew out). should i take it from him and try to make it into a kick mic? and come to think of it, i have a pair of 6x9's that i ripped out of my old car which have a tweeter on em, do you think i could try using one of these? hmmm...
 
Yeh, try it. I dont know which speakers work best. Mine didnt go too well :(

But im going to by a studiospares version of the NS-10 if people think this is a better idea?
 
drummerdude666 said:
Yeh, try it. I dont know which speakers work best. Mine didnt go too well :(

But im going to by a studiospares version of the NS-10 if people think this is a better idea?
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Try it ouside of the speaker cabinet.
It may be that the suspension is so stiff that it's having a hard time being sensitive. IF the speaker has a stiff suspension to start with, and you put it in the cabinet, it will raise the suspension.
Usually stereo speakers have a lower suspension level than musical Instrument/PA speakers. ** I've seen somebody use a single Black Widow-loaded Peavy 1x18" Subwoofer cabinet for this, they just stuck it in front of the kcik drum, and covered both the kick and the cabinet with packing blankets. The speaker cabinet even had an XLR built right in it!



It could also be that any particular variables. such as a low SPL rating, are causing it to be less responsive. The higher the SPL rating, the louder the speaker will be, and I would think that just the opposite would be in effect here - the lower the SPL rating, the softer/less sensitive this speaker will be as a microphone.



Tim
 
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