Mackie or Focusrite ???

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hi fellas!

just wondering if you could help out a girl in her hour of need?

while we're on the subject of the mackies, what is an xdr?

i have a choice between two vlz mixers, and one has xdr and the other one doesn't.

should i assume the xdr is just some technical jibe that i shouldn't concern myself with, or is there really a difference? is the xdr more or less vanilla?

thanks so much!

many smiles,

daisy ;)
 
the VLZ is vanilla...the VLZ Pro is French Vanilla....
 
yummy

would the behrengers be "vanilla ice" then? he he. ice, ice, baby.

so i think i see what you're saying. they're both good, but just different, and one sorta' colors the sound while the other just makes your mic louder?

i think i'm getting the hang of it with the ice cream references. thanks boys! i'm getting hungry!

daisy
 
Behringers are more like cottage cheese...made of pretty much the same things as ice cream but tastes like shit.....
 
ice cream

you know all that ice cream is great until your friend plays the tune on his home stereo which makes it sound like he just dropped the ice cream on the floor and you dont want to think about what you spent on it...... ha hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaah
 
Re: hi fellas!

Daisy said:
just wondering if you could help out a girl in her hour of need?

while we're on the subject of the mackies, what is an xdr?

i have a choice between two vlz mixers, and one has xdr and the other one doesn't.

should i assume the xdr is just some technical jibe that i shouldn't concern myself with, or is there really a difference? is the xdr more or less vanilla?

thanks so much!

many smiles,

daisy ;)
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xdr stands for extended dynamic range. It's their name for the redesigned preamps in the vlz PRO board. I've never critically listened to the regular vlz preamps but I been around them a little. I have worked with the xdr ones in the vlz pro board. For the cost they are very nice.

To compare them to another preamp, I will say that there was a VERY NOTICABLE difference in quality between the mackie preamps and the aphex 107 preamps. (That studio's other preamp we had to compare) Aphex was MUCH better especially in the high end detailing. I'm just pointing it out because if you read the mackie site, they make it sound like they will replace the neves and avalons. It says they aimed to beat out $1000-$2000 preamps and....well...the aphex is like 239 for a stereo set (meaning each preamp is about 140)

So yeah...if you can, go for the xdrs. I think most people will agree that you should get a nice single pre as a main channel for vocals and such.

Oh yeah, the xdrs are pretty colorless so thats pretty vanilla if I'm not mistaken.
 
Re: ice cream

grachus said:
you know all that ice cream is great until your friend plays the tune on his home stereo which makes it sound like he just dropped the ice cream on the floor and you dont want to think about what you spent on it...... ha hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaah
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Huh?
 
I see (or taste) or whatever

Yeah, I understand now why when I plugged a microphone directly into my Mackie, the sound was very clean, whereas, when I go through the dbx channel strip (model 376) there is so infinitely more aretifact, coloration and distortion. So, should I simply skip the channel strip (it sounds great on guitar) when I do vocals, or, considering my relative lack of experience in recording (particularly vocals) should I continue to work with the device until I learn how to use it better. You see, at this stage of my engigeering career, I am safer assuming that I am doing something not quite right rather than assuming the gear is not good, or adequate or even very good, or, for that matter "chocolate, chocolate chip...[sweeeet]".
 
I don't really know the unit you're talking about, but all I can say is trust your ears. Sometimes a clean preamp works best. Sometimes the character, coloration and noise is exactly what a track needs. In my own experience, I tend to lean towards the colored sound.
 
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