Mac or PC.....WHO GIVES A CRAP....

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Tell me more of this mac or pc that you all speak of. :laughings:
Are they better cereals than what MSH spoke of?






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A new option :-)

Well this is my first post, good a place as any to start I guess.

moons ago when Apple was using their power pc hardware this debate was strong because you really only had two options.....Mac side of the fence was, if you wanted for whatever reason OS/OSX then cough up the $$$ for my pretty hardware too. Fair enough I guess.

Today this argument is almost moot since Apple has moved to Intel based processors.....

I currently run a 3.0ghz core 2 duo
4 gig 1066 ram
2tb of hard drive space
1gb dual DVI video card (pair 23" monitors)
OSX 10.6.4 (legal retail Apple DVD)

cost approx $500 (minus monitors)

If you like/love OSX or Logic for that matter , have minimal tech ability (can build your own PC) and are tired for paying through the wazoo for Apple hardware....check it out :)

http://tonymacx86.blogspot.com/2010/08/building-customac-customac-pro-2010.html


ps. great forums by the way :-)
 
I posted this another forum but maybe someone can help me here.

Newb here. Hello all.
I recently decided to start recording. I bought a PowerMac G5 off of my roommate for $200 (thought that was a good price. Is it?). I think it is from 2004. Here are the specs:

Processor: Dual 2 GHZ Power PC G5
Memory: 1 GB DDR SDRAM
Machine Model: PowerMac 7,3
It is running Mac OSX V. 10.4.11

I brought the computer to a local guy who has helped me once in the past. I told him I will only be using the computer to record and to wipe it of everything else. He was going to install Logic but had trouble installing the OSX 10.5 disc I gave him so he couldn't use a current version of Logic. He kept getting a kernel command (?). He had it for close to a month and pretty much did nothing with it. He said he was going to up the ram and never did. He did install a 250 GB hard drive. It's only going to cost me $50 for "everything" he did.

Anyway, I'm going to take it somewhere else and see if anything can be done to make it a decent computer to use to record but I wanted to see if you guys had any ideas of what can be done (if anything can be done). I use a PreSonus Inspire 1394 to plug in my guitar and mic. I won't be recording full bands with this so I don't need it to be unbelieveable but I would like it to work without latency issues. Should I have not bought this PowerMac? I figured it was cheaper than buying a brand new laptop, which I don't have the money for right now.

Thanks for the help.
 
pjc1475 said:
Well this is my first post, good a place as any to start I guess.

moons ago when Apple was using their power pc hardware this debate was strong because you really only had two options.....Mac side of the fence was, if you wanted for whatever reason OS/OSX then cough up the $$$ for my pretty hardware too. Fair enough I guess.

Today this argument is almost moot since Apple has moved to Intel based processors.....

I currently run a 3.0ghz core 2 duo
4 gig 1066 ram
2tb of hard drive space
1gb dual DVI video card (pair 23" monitors)
OSX 10.6.4 (legal retail Apple DVD)

cost approx $500 (minus monitors)

If you like/love OSX or Logic for that matter , have minimal tech ability (can build your own PC) and are tired for paying through the wazoo for Apple hardware....check it out :)

http://tonymacx86.blogspot.com/2010/08/building-customac-customac-pro-2010.html


ps. great forums by the way :-)
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Hey welcome to the ZOO .... PJC :D
great first post!






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acoustichris said:
I posted this another forum but maybe someone can help me here.

Newb here. Hello all.
I recently decided to start recording. I bought a PowerMac G5 off of my roommate for $200 (thought that was a good price. Is it?). I think it is from 2004. Here are the specs:

Processor: Dual 2 GHZ Power PC G5
Memory: 1 GB DDR SDRAM
Machine Model: PowerMac 7,3
It is running Mac OSX V. 10.4.11

I brought the computer to a local guy who has helped me once in the past. I told him I will only be using the computer to record and to wipe it of everything else. He was going to install Logic but had trouble installing the OSX 10.5 disc I gave him so he couldn't use a current version of Logic. He kept getting a kernel command (?). He had it for close to a month and pretty much did nothing with it. He said he was going to up the ram and never did. He did install a 250 GB hard drive. It's only going to cost me $50 for "everything" he did.

Anyway, I'm going to take it somewhere else and see if anything can be done to make it a decent computer to use to record but I wanted to see if you guys had any ideas of what can be done (if anything can be done). I use a PreSonus Inspire 1394 to plug in my guitar and mic. I won't be recording full bands with this so I don't need it to be unbelieveable but I would like it to work without latency issues. Should I have not bought this PowerMac? I figured it was cheaper than buying a brand new laptop, which I don't have the money for right now.

Thanks for the help.
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Hey Chris ... welcome as well to the ZOO!
Try down loading Reaper as your DAW it's not at all cpu hungry and is free until you decide that it's for you (then about $60.)
You just have to put up with a 5 second nag screen at power up that's it.







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Thanks Moresound :-)

.... so far have found a wealth of information here....hope to contribute some back.
 
moresound said:
Hey Chris ... welcome as well to the ZOO!
Try down loading Reaper as your DAW it's not at all cpu hungry and is free until you decide that it's for you (then about $60.)
You just have to put up with a 5 second nag screen at power up that's it.







:cool:
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So Reaper is better than using Garage Band, which is what I have been using.
 
Looks like that won't be a problem.
Just don't go into the cave for awhile till you know who's who:laughings:






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Chris,
You may also want to consider throwing another stick of ram in her (1gig about $20-$25) especially if you delve into the land of plugins :-)
 
pjc1475 said:
You may also want to consider throwing "Another stick of ram in her"
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Blimey ! That sounds like a video nasty......one of those kind of movies your Mum throws you out of the house for watching. :eek: "Another stick of ram in her ? I'll not have that filth in my house !"
 
grimtraveller said:
Blimey ! That sounds like a video nasty......one of those kind of movies your Mum throws you out of the house for watching. :eek: "Another stick of ram in her ? I'll not have that filth in my house !"
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Yeah ram it home.:laughings::laughings::laughings:






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pjc1475 said:
Well this is my first post, good a place as any to start I guess.

Today this argument is almost moot since Apple has moved to Intel based processors.....

I currently run a 3.0ghz core 2 duo
4 gig 1066 ram
2tb of hard drive space
1gb dual DVI video card (pair 23" monitors)
OSX 10.6.4 (legal retail Apple DVD)

cost approx $500 (minus monitors)

If you like/love OSX or Logic for that matter , have minimal tech ability (can build your own PC) and are tired for paying through the wazoo for Apple hardware....check it out :)

http://tonymacx86.blogspot.com/2010/08/building-customac-customac-pro-2010.html


ps. great forums by the way :-)
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What you did not mention is several people posted at the bottom of the article bought the suggested hardware and had black screens, audio does not work,video low resolution. There is also the risk of Apple "fixing" the next version of the OS not to work with these types of systems and even 1 version difference in the motherboard causes catastrophic problems.

Mac OS was meant to run on Mac hardware. Window was meant to run on just about anything and does not have to be hacked to do so. The advantage of Mac is that the hardware you buy from them will work and be supported, building one yourself could result in it not works correctly or not working in newer versions of the OS.

I am glad that someone is trying to work around the cost issues and maybe in the future you will be able to build your own mac for the price of a PC. I think that would be great but as it stands right now, you may be buying the pc in the link above to run mac os, but end up running windows instead.

If they prove that they have hardware that will work, maybe a hackintosh could be in my future. The only problem is most of the software I run does not run on mac and I would have to start over. Still the future is looking brighter for people willing to invest the time and risk incompatabily with future mac OS's.

Also at one time. I tried to instal a hacked version of the mac os, it was called hackintosh but I could not get a number of things to works even though the hardware was said to work. It worked to some extent but in the end I blew away the partition. I am not against putting mac os on a home built pc and applaud those who try to get it to work and pass it on. I just don't think it is there yet. The other problem is it would seem Apple is trying to thwart the plans of people trying to get it work by changing the os in next version to defeat the plans of cheap mice and mac men.
 
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r1chard said:
What you did not mention is several people posted at the bottom of the article bought the suggested hardware and had black screens, audio does not work,video low resolution. There is also the risk of Apple "fixing" the next version of the OS not to work with these types of systems and even 1 version difference in the motherboard causes catastrophic problems.

Mac OS was meant to run on Mac hardware. Window was meant to run on just about anything and does not have to be hacked to do so. The advantage of Mac is that the hardware you buy from them will work and be supported, building one yourself could result in it not works correctly or not working in newer versions of the OS.

I am glad that someone is trying to work around the cost issues and maybe in the future you will be able to build your own mac for the price of a PC. I think that would be great but as it stands right now, you may be buying the pc in the link above to run mac os, but end up running windows instead.

If they prove that they have hardware that will work, maybe a hackintosh could be in my future. The only problem is most of the software I run does not run on mac and I would have to start over. Still the future is looking brighter for people willing to invest the time and risk incompatabily with future mac OS's.

Also at one time. I tried to instal a hacked version of the mac os, it was called hackintosh but I could not get a number of things to works even though the hardware was said to work. It worked to some extent but in the end I blew away the partition. I am not against putting mac os on a home built pc and applaud those who try to get it to work and pass it on. I just don't think it is there yet. The other problem is it would seem Apple is trying to thwart the plans of people trying to get it work by changing the os in next version to defeat the plans of cheap mice and mac men.
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You are right....it certainly is not without potential issues. The link that I posted was a bleeding edge system really to show the potential of what can be done and give a an idea of price and spec comparison. With a little homework and research you can build a "PC" running current OSX that is as future proof as a current Mac. The motherboard is the most important component. And with the right board and DSDT for that board the operating system does not know the difference.

My system for example thinks it's an iMac 11,2 and has no extra kexts or files that differentiates itself from a Apple produced iMac 11,2 so updates are not an issue. Sound can be an issue with a lot of the built in audio chipsets, but most of us using it as a DAW are probably using an aux sound device anyways.

It's nice to have options, and well if you're a bit a geek like me it's also kind of fun. :D
 
kcearl said:
i want an iPad :o
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Me too :) they are pretty cool......Apple has an amazing way of building products that make us say "I have no idea what the hell I'm gonna do with that, but i want one" :laughings:

My macbook pro, ipod and iphone tell me that I am not immune to ways of great industrial engineering ;)
 
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