M-Audio Tampa to Delta 1010 (desperate)

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Use the arrow keys on your keyboard to move the little slider one notch at a time.
 
punkin said:
The switch on the mic is an attenuator. 0 means no reduction in signal output of the microphone, -10 means 10 dB of signal output reduction (attenuation) and -20 means 20 dB of reduction. You would use this when recording loud audio sources which might over drive the input to the mic pre.

The plus (+20) switch on the Tampa is similar but backwards. When turned to +20 increases the gain of the microphone signal and you can't get enough signal to your recording card. This is usually done when you're using a mic with low output characteristics or, if you're recording a very quiet signal. It would be a goofy thing to have the mic switch turned to -20 and the Tampa set to +20 (get it?).

The impedance setting is to match the mic pre input impedance with the mic output. I don't know anything about your mic. If you bought your mic new, the owner's manual will tell you. There's no chance of any harm to the gear by having a mis-match but it could impart an audio quality/tonality difference.

The meters...the input meter shows how much signal is coming from the mic going into the mic preamplifier. Too much and it over drives the input of the amp and sounds crappy. 100% is probably too high...occasional peaks close to 100% is ok...good actually. The output meter shows how much signal is going to your computer recording card. Again 100% is not good. (so to recap, there's a gazinta gauge and a goezoutta gauge) In stead of focusing on the output meter of the Tampa, I would look at the M-Audio Delta card input meters for that channel. Again, getting close to 100% is ok...pegging the meter is bad. Too low, and you don't make the most of the available recording band width and during playback, you've got to turn the volume control way up.

You keep making reference to listening on the headphones...is this during record or playback (after recording)? I would focus on the quality of the actual recording. You'll make much better and faster progress.

You're on a roll...get in there and play with the gear!
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Thanks for the nice explanation punkin! I have the mic set to 0 but the +20db switch on the tampa switched on, so I guess I am good there.

the meters wont move...the needles stay put. 100% and 0% so its like I dont know, they arent getting signals? But I am getting a signal in Acid and on the mixer at good levels.

I am listening to the headphones that run from the mixer both during recording and playback.

Thanks again, off to play with it some more ~
 
Output impedance: <200 Ohm.

Load impedance: >1000 Ohm.

So with those specs, what should I have the dial switched to?

2400, 1200, 600, 300
 
SRR said:
Use the arrow keys on your keyboard to move the little slider one notch at a time.
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Sweet! Works SRR thansk again, thats awesome!
 
I looked at the Tampa manual to try and find out the different settings for using the compressor. Anyone know a good place for me to find that information out. Like Attack, Ratio, Release, Thresh, etc....

I turn the knobs and can tell slight differences, but wanting to know whats some good settings to try out to see what fits my voice best.

Thanks again, I am always reminded what a nice resource these forums are and how helpful most of you are.
 
Nevermind on the settings for the compressor I ended up finding it in the manual which I guess I skimmed over before, thanks again.
 
I guess my main problem now is just the fact that I cant get the guages to move at all, no matter what I set the compressor settings at. It says in the manual to set the threshold until the gain reduction is about 3db. But the guage never moves, bleh....I am getting closer, just need this last big step...
 
LOL, will the problems ever cease? ;)

Ok, so now I start to mess with trying to record a song, so I start with a drum track (from my Alesis SR-16) which I have going from the Main Left and Main Right of the Alesis into channel 5/6 in my mixer so I can EQ it. I tried to record into acid and got nothing. Then I realized I have a different set up now than when I was using the Quattro.

So then I took from the 2 outs on the Alesis and ran it into channel 3/4 in the delta 1010. I can hear the drums fine when i try to record into acid but I am getting nothing recorded on the track. All I can get is from the mic. So for example when I play the drums but humm into the mic I get everything from the mic and nothgin from the alesis.

So I went back into the control panel of the Delta 1010. I unmuted the H/W IN 3/4 and turned volume up all the way to 0. I also tried muting the H/W In 1/2 (where the mic is in) and turning the volume all the way down. I can see the green signal lights in H/W IN 3/4 going when I play the drums, but also can see when I talk into the mic (even tho it is muted and volume all the way down). Still no luck, it does the same thing. I am getting the recording from the mic but cant seem to get the drums in there.

Dont tell me I have to keep switching out on the 1/2 channel depending if I want mic or drums do I?

Also if the drums stay directly intop the delta, theres no way for me to EQ them anymore thru the mixer?

Is there something I am missing?

Thanks!!!
 
Your problems are probably in your recording program, make sure on the track you want to record on to, that you select inputs 3/4 for your drum machine. How you do that varies by program to program.

Also you will probably want in the patchbay/router of the m-audio control panel to have 1/2 be wavout not monitor mixer. MM will take everything from your recording program and your other hardware inputs and mix it all together. Where here you just want to be listening to what your recording program is doing.

Also is there any reason you can't EQ the drums in your recording program rather then the mixer? Almost any EQ plugin is probably gonna sound better then the EQ on your mixer.

We are almost there.... :cool:
 
You miss spelled it...Polka...you mean poke a. But poke a what? :D
 
Load impedance: >1000 Ohm.

So with those specs, what should I have the dial switched to?

2400, 1200, 600, 300
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1200 or 2400, you can always try lower though, you won't hurt a thing.
 
ANd as far as that meter not moving, well it should....hmmmmmmm. :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
 
SRR said:
Your problems are probably in your recording program, make sure on the track you want to record on to, that you select inputs 3/4 for your drum machine. How you do that varies by program to program.

Also you will probably want in the patchbay/router of the m-audio control panel to have 1/2 be wavout not monitor mixer. MM will take everything from your recording program and your other hardware inputs and mix it all together. Where here you just want to be listening to what your recording program is doing.

Also is there any reason you can't EQ the drums in your recording program rather then the mixer? Almost any EQ plugin is probably gonna sound better then the EQ on your mixer.

We are almost there.... :cool:
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OMG, DUhhhhhhhh!!! :rolleyes:

Sorry i am such a noob sometimes. Yea, when you click the record button, you have the dropdown for 1/2, 1/2 mono, 3/4, 3/4 mono etc....so I just changed it to 3/4 mono and im in like flynn ;)

hehe thanks SRR. I am at least gonna get a dang recording done of this song tonight for its first take. Check out MP3 clinic later tonight or I will link it from here also.

Thanks again man, learning is half the battle....
 
OK...so here's the deal...we've spent a bunch of time heppin' you. Post an audio clip "K"? The fruits of labor...let's hear it...seriously.

BTW...welcome to the sickness :D
 
punkin said:
OK...so here's the deal...we've spent a bunch of time heppin' you. Post an audio clip "K"? The fruits of labor...let's hear it...seriously.

BTW...welcome to the sickness :D
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Hehe, yea I appreciate it punkin....

I am working on it now...will post something before I sleep I promise ;)
 
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

One more problem to fix please?!?!

So after the drum track is layed down, now I am going back over it trying to lay down a guitar part. While I am listening to the play back as I am recording the guitar, everything seems fine. But when I play it back to hear it, it's like my guitar part is behind 1/2 second or something liek I dont know how to keep time.

Bleh, this wasnt the case on teh quattro, what could it be?
 
i thought about changing the Audio Device from: Windows Classic Wave Driver, which is what it is on now and has been with this new setup, to M-Audio Delta ASIO. I was thinking the ASIO drivers would be faster than the windows and therefore making it not lag behind a 1/2 step when I record new tracks.

The problem thos is that if I select the ASIO, then in the drop down for the device playback is all analog options. When I try them and record the track, then instead of recording in mono, it records in stereo (2 lines instead of 1) and I can only hear out of the left ear.

Just thought I would add information here as I come across it in hopes that someone can fix me up ;)
 
I think we are back to problems with your recording progie...is there a ASIO setup menu or device set up menu or...
 
not sure what u mean but if u go to Options >> Preferences...and then click on the AUDIO tab thats where u have the choices I menitoned before:

If I go to OPTIONS in Acid and go to AUDIO tab I can change the AUDIO DEVICE TYPE to the following options:

- Microsoft Sound mapper
- Direct Sound Surround Mapper
- Windows Classic Wave Driver
- M-Audio Delta ASIO

If I choose either of the first 2 options, the select box for DEFAULT PLAYBACK DEVICE is grayed out and I can select nothing. but if I choose the last 2, here are the following choices:

- Windows Classic Wave Driver
- M-Audio Delta 1010 1/2
- M-Audio Delta 1010 3/4
- SigmaTel Audio
- M-Audio Delta 1010 5/6
- M-Audio Delta 1010 7/8
- M-Audio Delta S/PDIF

- M-Audio Delta ASIO
- Analog Out 1/2 Delta 1010
- Analog Out 3/4 Delta 1010
- Analog Out 5/6 Delta 1010
- Analog Out 7/8 Delta 1010
- S/PDIF Out L/R Delta 1010

you mean that or something else?
 
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