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Lucid...?HELP!!!!!!!!!!

Are these converters made mainly for dats...?
I read the user guide, and figured it would make things clearer.
How does this thing work in to my chain of operation with a computer, soundcard, preamp etc...?
It's got me all messed up, after I convert a sample with it, does it send it back to where it came from or do I need another converter to send it back through...? This is frustrating!
Please reply ASAP...thanks!

Oh and what is a DA for, I really need a 700$ peice of equipment to just to hear what I recorded! There's gotta be more to it than that... Hey Sojko2 if your reading this please help, You like a good DA, tell me why in detail...also do you think it's worth getting, meaning better than any soundcard DA which I've heard in some cases isn't any different.

Thanks!!!!
 
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I'm really in need...

help, help, help, help, help, help, help, help, help,..............help!
 
I have been entertaining the idea of coppin' the AD. I could feed a garden variety 1/4" audio signal into it, and bring the digital out into my soundcard via spdif or toslink. Since my soundcard and software support 96k - I would be in good shape, methinks. Once I have recorded @ 96 I think I could use the converters in my s-card to bring it down to 44.
 
Hey bball...?

Is that what the DA does, is bring it down to 41 ect...?
Please answer soon...
 
Re: Hey bball...?

PRiZ said:
Is that what the DA does, is bring it down to 41 ect...?
Please answer soon...

Man if you do not know what A/D and D/A conversion is, you should definitely NOT be looking at a Lucid.

Would you buy your 16-year old son/daughter a Ferrari as soon as they finished driver's ed.? ;)
 
In a manner of speaking yes. The DA will take any digital sample rate (48,82,96) and convert it to the standard 44k for audio. Your soundcard and (various other effect pedals etc.) has converters in it already - an A/D for your in and a D/A for the out.
These converters, however, would not be quite as accurate and clean as the standalone jobs - such as the Lucids.
 
The DA will take any digital sample rate (48,82,96) and convert it to the standard 44k for audio.

What?? :confused: Convert it to the standard 44k for audio???

A DA-convertor takes a digital input, which is nothing more than a stream of numbers (96000 numbers/second at 96kHz), and converts this into an analog signal.

You standard 44.1KHz is another digital standard. 44100 samples/second, as it is used on cd. To convert from 96kHz to 'standard 44k for audio' you need a samplerate convertor.
Or you can first convert it from 96k to analog using DA, and then back to digital at 44.1 using a AD!

Jee. :rolleyes:
 
oh damn...

I've been looking at the SRC9624 sample rate converter, not the AD and DA converters... well I was thinking the sample rate was an ADA converter. I can't beleive it took me that long to realize.
feelin dumb right now, so I might aswell ask what I have been lookin at is...? I'm still in shock, I've been lookin at this thing for days thinkin it was an AD-DA converter... :)
I don't even no what to say... ... ... ... What would a sample rate converter do, just dither 96 to 41and vice versa...?
my questions are making more sense now, and mayby it is a sample rate-converter I want after all.
I've been reading ad and da converter reviews and getting mixed messages, this is why it's been so hard to understand...ergh!
 
What would be the use of an ADA convertor? :confused: Except for lofi effects?

I think you should get a little deeper into the theory of analog and digital signal processing. Those reviews ain't gonna get you anywhere if you don't know what AD and DA exactly is...

A sample rate convertor has a signal at one rate on the input, and outputs the 'same' signal at a different samplerate. Inside the box this is calculated in some way, upsampled and downsampled again, heavy computing stuff. All that matters to you is that it's calculated digitally, just look at it as a black box.
This box is usefull for example if you want to copy a DAT (48khz) to a CD (44.1khz) without having to convert your signal to analog. (and the noise that comes with it.)

To answer your original question: a standalone AD convertor converts your analog signal to digital. Then you feed it to a digital input on your soundcard. So you bypass the AD on your soundcard. Hope this helps...
 
YEAH!

Makes perfect sense!
Can you still hear it in digital and displayed on your computer?
I mean listen and edit the recording made, without a DA?
or will it just be less quality sounding without a DA?
Will a sample converter make the actual digital sounds, not recordings, sound alot better...?
THanKS!!!
 
What you listen is an analog signal. So, without a DA, you CAN'T listen to it. (Actually you can, but people don't refer to that as music. :D ) That's why a computer needs a soundcard to produce more sound than beeps. A soundcard has a DA onboard.

Computers are digital, so they need digital 'sound'. (Digital sound is nothing more than numbers...)

A sample rate convertor will just recalculate the data so that both streams on different samplerates REPRESENT the same data.
So, if you convert it to analog and listen to it, they sound the same. (Offcourse, within the limits of your samplerate. Data sampled at 96khz will contain twice as much information as data sampled at 48khz, so offcourse, when converting from 96 to 48, you'll loose data, and quality. If you convert from 48 to 96, the quality will stay the same. You add data, but that data won't give you more information than you had before, as that is where you get it. The 96khz DA conversion will sound better, on the other hand.)

You start getting it. If you want to learn more, you should look at tutorials on the web covering the subject. I'm not gonna write an entire course here... :D
 
A sample rate converter is for going down to 44.1 if you originally recorded at 48 or higher.

The big boys might use hardware, but I use Soundforge. They do the same Job.

As far as the converters. A dat machine and your harddisk are like the same thing. THey store digital data . You want to use the best converters to get the digital data into the dat or pc
 
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Priz...
according to your private message, I KNOW you are fingering that credit card. Don't you DARE order ANYTHING without 1st consulting us on your buy. We won't steer you from ordering nice stuff, but if you order something making the kind of mistake you already made, you're gonna be hurting.
Paul
 
There is this place i stumbled across when i first entered home recording.com i will tell you where if you promise to visit ok


OK looks like i can share the url with you then


ready now ok here it is


http://www.homerecording.com/glossary.html



HMMM I think a visit here will answer a few of those coversion dilemas :-)
 
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