Low Cuts

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Which brings up another question....how do ya know when your room is good? :confused:

Bouncing pink noise isn't going to really tell you a hell of a lot.
Yeah...you might see some big dip/peak...etc...but that isn’t the whole thing.

The best way is to play some high quality audio...and then just listen, but you kinda’ have to know what you are listening for.

Chesky Records (I think Bob Katz was invlolved) put out 3 "test" CDs awhile ago. Each CD has one section full of various tests/tones...and also a section of very Hi-Q recorded music.
Using those CDs...you can get a good idea if your room/monitors are working well for you.

Chesky Test CDs

I have Volumes 1, 2 & 3
 
Cool. :cool:

Thanks MiroDude :D

It looks like Vol 2 has more goodz on it. What are ya supposed to learn from em? :confused:

Do ya walk around your room and listen for irregularities? What did they do for you? I guess what I'm sayin is how do they help ya learn your room?

peace-n-nipples...:)
 
I forget which is which...but some of the tests actually talk you through and tell you what to listen for...other tests help you identify imaging issues...etc.

Not to mentoin...the music on them is absolutley A++++++ recording quality (mostly Jazzy stuff...but exceptional recordings).
 
..Do ya walk around your room and listen for irregularities? What did they do for you? I guess what I'm sayin is how do they help ya learn your room?

peace-n-nipples...:)

FWIW, I have some friken fantastic speakers in a 'fair room. The speakers reveal detail for miles (I'm struck by the really low color from bottom up these do). But I need to move a bit (from my default spot) to get the full picture -on relative, and balance. Sloppy', but it works! :)
 
I forget which is which...but some of the tests actually talk you through and tell you what to listen for...other tests help you identify imaging issues...etc.

Not to mentoin...the music on them is absolutley A++++++ recording quality (mostly Jazzy stuff...but exceptional recordings).

i found them a bit muddy :D
 
I forget which is which...but some of the tests actually talk you through and tell you what to listen for...other tests help you identify imaging issues...etc.

Not to mentoin...the music on them is absolutley A++++++ recording quality (mostly Jazzy stuff...but exceptional recordings).


Thanks man....I'll just snag all three of em. ;)

FWIW, I have some friken fantastic speakers in a 'fair room. The speakers reveal detail for miles (I'm struck by the really low color from bottom up these do). But I need to move a bit (from my default spot) to get the full picture -on relative, and balance. Sloppy', but it works! :)

cool. I just dialed in another monitoring set up this past weekend and my sweet spot for them is like 8 feet behind my mixing desk. :eek:
Screw it....they're set up as mains and not nearfields, they sound good and it gets me off my ass for awhile. :D
 
:p Same here (the full range/mid-field' thing), ..and exactly.. get's me up and out of that seat!

:)

this was me before my new monitoring exercise workouts.
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This is like a comedy...

The low cut question is a common one though, and not just here. And the same problem goes on in the professional world. For every home grown self-titled producer there's another one that will blatantly disagree with what he says on any given topic. And for every actual, no-shit, money-making professional (Even the ones that Glen would agree are professionals) ........ there will be another one that blatantly disagrees with what he says on any given topic.

The problem is that this is MOSTLY art, there's good art, and there's bad art, but the topic is entirely subjective so it's moot to argue it. In fact...90% of the discussion on any of these recording forums are moot. Because there really and truly ISN'T any 100% right answer to any of these questions. There are, however, very likely some things about this that are MORE correct than other things. Which is what started this whole discussion in the first place. I would recommend in the future that people try and be a little more open to posting their stuff on here though...

"I've heard that a lot of people low cut everything but bass and drums, I tried it, it sounded good, but why did it work? (post song/examples...discuss)"

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KC, I can understand what you're saying about the professionals saying they low cut everything. I've heard it also, it would be confusing to anyone who's trying to learn this stuff. +1 point for you...


...but...


-1 point for you for being an instigator. I think it's pretty clear to everyone here that you get off on the messes you create in these type of threads. It's obvious you're having fun. But that's your thing man...use it! :drunk:

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Glen, I can also understand what you're saying. It seems counterintuitive (because of the whole art thing) to use ANY formulas in music. But surely there are some TRENDS that could be discussed, which, while not formulaic, might shed some light on the whys behind the whats.. +1 point for you...


...but...


-1 point for you because you're not a very good teacher. Extremely experienced, undoubtedly knowledgeable, and clearly very intellectually aware of both the art and the business behind the "music thang". But you're not very encouraging, which is what I think most people are looking for. But you've made it clear that you don't feel the need to baby anyone on here, so I get that. Just don't be so surprised when everyone doesn't leap in your lap like grandpa when you lay your steel toed boots to their ideas.

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So that leaves us....one, plus...one...minus...*mumble*carry the two*mumble* RIGHT...back to square one.

Where's the next battle ground?
 
-1 point for you for being an instigator. I think it's pretty clear to everyone here that you get off on the messes you create in these type of threads.

I have nothing against KC on a personal level, but I've noticed that the above is true.

I also noticed he likes to argue without fully (or even remotely) understanding the side he's taking. He'll copy and paste stuff, but then when it comes time to discuss what he copied and pasted, it becomes obvious that he either doesn't remotely understand what he just copied and pasted....or he didn't even read it. But at least he looked smart when he posted it. :laughings:

Nothing personal, KC, you do have a good sense of humor and most of your posts are entertaining. But since you decided to star in this thread, I figured I'd elaborate on what Gizzmo said. :cool:
 
-1 point for you because you're not a very good teacher. Extremely experienced, undoubtedly knowledgeable, and clearly very intellectually aware of both the art and the business behind the "music thang". But you're not very encouraging
Encouragement is irrelevant; motivation comes from within. I'm not here to encourage or discourage anybody.

I won't claim to be the world's best teacher, but I will say that the teaching/learning process is a two-person tango, and there is just as much onus on the student as there is the teacher. Willing students not only don't seem to have a problem with the way I teach, but actually like the no-bullshit approach.

And, BTW, I provide plenty of encouragement to plenty of folks. But I *never* encourage bad habits, which is what a lot of people want me to do.

Again, I am not absolving my self of all responsibility, but the sad fact is there's a whole lot of people here that want to hear what they want to hear and aren't really interested in hearing anything that conflicts with their initial beliefs. When they meet someone like me who's not interested in coddling false beliefs or bad habits and would rather nip the bullshit in the bud, they get pissed. That's their issue, not mine. I'm not trying to piss anyone off, they choose to react that way.

You don't have to believe me; I invite you to go through the history of your average member here who has a problem with my being a "pompous ass" and actually analyze their overall M.O.

G.
 
I totally agree with you and still think you're a pompous ass, so what's my M.O.?
 
I totally agree with you and still think you're a pompous ass, so what's my M.O.?
You're just one of those class clowns who just sits in the back of the room shooting spitballs at everybody else.

G.
 
This is like a comedy...


KC, I can understand what you're saying about the professionals saying they low cut everything. I've heard it also, it would be confusing to anyone who's trying to learn this stuff. +1 point for you...


...but...


-1 point for you for being an instigator. I think it's pretty clear to everyone here that you get off on the messes you create in these type of threads. It's obvious you're having fun. But that's your thing man...use it! :drunk:


Where's the next battle ground?

no battle ground from me..

point is I never said I agree with or didnt agree with low cuts...and thats what everybody is missing

I said, far from it being just rumour or on the internet it is being show in tutorials...

From then Im accused of being someone who is looking for shortcuts etc etc

I have nothing against KC on a personal level, but I've noticed that the above is true.

I also noticed he likes to argue without fully (or even remotely) understanding the side he's taking. He'll copy and paste stuff, but then when it comes time to discuss what he copied and pasted, it becomes obvious that he either doesn't remotely understand what he just copied and pasted....or he didn't even read it. But at least he looked smart when he posted it. :laughings:

Nothing personal, KC, you do have a good sense of humor and most of your posts are entertaining. But since you decided to star in this thread, I figured I'd elaborate on what Gizzmo said. :cool:

bullshit..

What you or anyone thinks of me personally doesnt matter mate

the only thing Ive ever copy and pasted was a couple of articles in the newbie section where I said I wasnt the original author and credited who was...I did take the time out to type them out as I couldn't find them online..I read them, I understand the basics of them

another who assumes


fuck all to do with being smart, looking smart, or anything else...and the several messages I had thanking me for posting it made that effort worth while

if you think there are any more than those posts then you are mistaken or a liar


Now should we discuss your own inability to communicate in a non abrasive way? Id be only to glad to elaborate...nothing personal of course...but you are quite the dickhead :)
 
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