Low and High Fades (How To?)

[TBC]

I do alot of mixing on my turntables and it sounds really good when I fade the bass in from one song while i fade the bass out from another song simultaneously. All I want to know is, in Cool Edit Pro, is there a way to do a bass or treble fade. All I want to do is fade only the bass out of 1 song and then fade the bass in from the 2nd song. I cant figure out a way to do it, but I mean there has to be a way. Thanks!

 

[chrisharris]

Yeah, there are several ways, but I have never once used the EQ envelopes in CEP, so I'd have to take the long approach...which is probably laughable, but it would work.

Take the end of one tune (where your fade would start) and splice it. Make a copy of that last section of the song and put it on a different track and line it up with it's twin. On the new track (the one with the copy you made), use the track EQ on it to cut all the highs and boost the low end. Use the volume envelopes on each track to fade out the original and fade in the bass heavy copy.

Do the same thing (in reverse) with the next tune at the beginning of it...(i.e., splice the intro, make a copy of it, boost the bass on the copy, and fade it into the new tune.

It takes a long time to type all that, but I could do it in probably under a minute. Oh, and I'M POSITIVE there's a better way to do it...I just posted this idea in case you're in a hurry.

 

[TBC]

Not Really in a hurry

Im not really in a hurry, your idea seems logical, just long. I'm definately going to give it a try but if you could find out a simpler way, that would be great!! Thanks for the tip man!

 

[chrisharris]

I tried, but I couldn't find a simpler way. In fact, that only way that works for me was a tad more complicated, so I'm attaching a couple of pics.

First, I did what I typed earlier (ie, spliced the end, made a copy of the end, then turned that copy into a "unique copy" so that I could EQ it).

Then I took the copy into Edit mode and used a low pass filter with a cutoff of 300 Hz. (First picture below). [Effects --> Filters --> Scientific Filters]

Then I used the Hard Limiter to add about 8db of gain to this (now totally thumping) copy.

Then I went back into the multitrack session, and used the volume envelopes as you see in the 2nd picture (green, diagonal lines). It actually sounds damned cool on the version I did, but like I said...it's not something I'd normally do, so I'm really making this up. I thought there were EQ Envelopes in CEP/AA, but I guess not.

CAN ANYBODY ELSE HELP THIS POOR MAN???

 

[Jim Y]

I use a technique that might work. I was doing it to get rid of the hiss on old recordings with fades - noise reduction has side effects and the hiss wasn't apparent when at full vol. Surprisingly the result was very natural sounding. This was with CEP1.x. CEP2/Audition does have more sophisticated means.
Use the quick filter - this has a sliding setting so you can morph between two EQs at the begining to end of a selection. If you need a deeper cut, run the effect again. The quick filter has a fairly low Q so you don't get a "Wah" side effect unless you reapply several times. I have a couple of presets I've done, "Fade in Treble", "Fade out Treble" etc.

To get the Quick Filter slide to work, uncheck "lock to these settings" you then have two simple graphic eq tabs, Start and Final. To fade out the treble, have Start flat and Final with the high frequencies at zero. You need to start the fade earlier than you might think for it to sound effective when you want.
Have yet to try the envelope filter in CEP2/Audition. I'm sure it's more versatile, but you go with what you know!

 

[TBC]

My life has become so much easier.

That worked so perfectly, THANKS MAN!