Logic Audio Bought out by MAC, switching to pro tools?

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Now that emagic has been bought out by mac, and will no longer be support on the PC as of september 2002, what do use faithful logic audio users do? I picked logic audio becuase i like it, i have honestly never tried pro tools, but i may have to switch to it. Is pro tools harder to use than logic audio? As far as i know logic is the hardest thing to use in the universe, so i really hope not. And as far as quality goes, pro tools is at least comparable with logic right? Ive seen some comparisons before where logic was "proved" to be better, but, anyways.
What do we do?
 
I've never used Logic, but I went from Cake Walk to Pro-tools LE and it's not hard as hell. It's a little overwhelming cause I'm still new to this stuff and I was just getting it to record and edit with, but if Logic is as hard as people say it is, then you shouldn't have a problem with PT, especially if you get a mac, I heard it's even easier than on a PC. All the stuff that's not in the manuals is in the heads of the user forum members. I haven't had any problems that weren't directly hardware related.
 
"Logic" is one of those programs where the name of the program almost has to be a play on words. Because in the beginning there is absolutely NO LOGC to the whole thing. I spent so many hours thinking... hmmmm why in the hell didn't they just do it that way in stead of having all this and that and this blah blah. But in the end, in true Mr. Miagi style, it all does make sense. And there is a huge amount of Logic to it.


ProTools is the Corvette, where as Logic is a BMW or a Mercedes. Emagic is the BMW because it isn't the first name to pop up when you think about sports cars. But BMWs never break and last forever.
ProTools has a lot of curb side appeal because their marketing department is HUGE and fucking smart. They spend millions on market research, producing free DVD promos. Paying people to endorse their products. And all their hardwork in marketing their product has paid off. They are now pretty much the standard for pro audio.

BUT.....

And PLEASE read this "BUT..."

The only real appealing thing about ProTools is the hardware. They have killer DSP cards, and pristine A/D-D/A audio interfaces. They have bad ass software controllers. If you have a full on ProTools set up, then you are the fucking S-H-I-T!!!!!!

But you are also very very poor. The most basic DSP card set up you can get for ProTools is over $7,000 and then you have to buy one of their $3,500 interfaces otherwise the DSP card is useless. And even then your track count is limited as hell. So you would have to get the two ior three card HD set up for no less than $11,000 (for SOUND CARDS ONLY!!!!) then spend maybe $8,000-$10,000 more on the interfaces. Then throw in the Software controlers for over $7,000. And that is before you even buy the PC/Mac to run it all on, plus the storage drives for storing the MASSIVE data generated by a 192mHz sampling rate.

Plus some near field monitors... Jesus dude you are whistling a $35,000 tune. Now the funny part is... a lot of these audio pros that buy all this stuff... they end up using Logic Audio Platinum as a front end for the ProTools hardware, because they like the Logic SOftware much better than the ProTools software.

The point I hope you are getting here is that ProTools software isn't better than emagic Logic... It is just the hardware.

Hope I helped. If you want to stick with the PC platform and not migrate over to Mac... then go with Steinberg's new SX program. It is cross gradable from Logic and it is supposed to be an awesome kit.

Go for it and tell me how you like it!

mike
 
the hell with a pro tools unless you have the cash for a hd3, like pisces7378 said...protoolsis based on hardware...o

... get Sx or nuendo and a uad-1 dsp card...
 
yea logic is awesome, as far as im concerned its the best, but because they won't be making it anymore for pc, and no more updates, im gonna have to switch eventually, cubase sx sounds good to me. i just need to take a look at it i guess.
 
Ambi...

As soon as eMagic decided to sell their company to Apple and discontinue the PC version, Steinberg ran an offer where you can cross-grade to Cubase SX for a LOT less than the full price... PLUS you can still keep Logic. It isn"t one of those, send in your Logic stuff and we'll send you the Cubase SX things. Since Logic Audio on the PC is "dead weight" as far as upgrades etc are concerned... Steinberg is like... keep the stupid program.

Sou you can have two fully licensed programs for a small price. Not bad. On that offer you have to act fast because it expires after September 2002 and after than I am sure that no one will be interested in cross grading anything from Logic.

HOWEVER.... if you have updated to version 5 of Logic audio then you don't necessarily have to run out tomorrow and jump ship. Emagic will still support your version 5.2 "forever". (so they say). And it is a stable good program. So if you are short on cash... just stay with Emagic for a year or two. Sit back, watch the market. See what comes up that is new. Think about it, and if you are still just dying to have the latest and greatest, then go to another company. Just do not panic at the thought of eMagic selling their company.
 
I agree with pisces7378. I will stay with my Logic version and continue working with my music. Logic still offers more features than I need. Would you change your well working analogue recorder if the company manufacturing it got broke, not me.

In the late 80:s I worked with an early version of Cubase on an Atari, it still works great even if I seldom use it today.

There are so many PC/Logic users out there. I would not be surprised if the development will continue in some way, or otherwise other brands will take care of all those users, maybe by supplying import possabilities of Logic files into their products. Would not be surprised if some 3:rd party company manages this, or why not Steinberg. This is a great chance for them.

One thing that would surprise me though is if all users starts bying expensive Macs. Don't think it will happen.

I will stay with my gear and see what happens. If the future turns out looking to dark in a year or so I'll have a deeper look at Cubase SX or Nuendo which really looks great in my eyes.

Guess the Mac/Logic users will be a small number of exclusive users (to small to create a standard) in the end and the PC/Logic users will still be there or converting to other PC software (read Steinberg), and at the same time the Mac people will turn to PC because of the small number of Mac users and for compability.

The industry standard is not Mac anymore. In a year (or at the moment) the computers are more than powerful enough to accomplish what you're after. The price issue between Mac and PC will be a hard thing for Apple to survive. If I was the head of Apple I would start making the MacOS working on a PC (I'm shure this will happen).

The support and knowledge of Logic will still be out there, even more I guess by pissed off PC/Logic users with lots of money and effort invested. Apple will be the dragon here.

Hans
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I personally would move over to SX. It's an excellent product which beats all other native systems hands down, including Logic. It's not only me that is saying this, all the recording press agree.
 
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