Listening to one of your mixes MASTERED.

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DavidK said:
Are you by chance signed? :rolleyes:



As a pro classical musician, let me assure you:

I make more money playing music for one hour than you make money playing music for one year. I guarantee you. :cool:

As for the chicks: half of the music world is gay :D
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hahahahaha

First, here in Montreal the bands that get the chicks AND the money are Mentake, Simple Plan, Bullet for my Valentine, Panic at the Disco, NickelBack
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...and id probably have to shoot myself if my want for chicks and fame drove me to want to sound like any of those bands...
 
DavidK said:
Are you by chance signed? :rolleyes:

As for the chicks: half of the music world is gay :D
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We are not yet signed, but a well known producer is very interested in us (has come to our shows and constantly talks with our manager). When he heard the demo we did last year he said "you need to take this mix to a mastering house so he can make it loud and competitive"...
Well guys, most of those mixes were pushing about -10/-11 dBRMS.
So now you all know where this craving for volume comes from....!

And if half the music world is gay, there's gonna be more chicks left for us :D
 
TheDewd said:
We are not yet signed, but a well known producer is very interested in us (has come to our shows and constantly talks with our manager).
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I've been a pro musician since before you were born. Trust me on this:

This means NOTHING. Sorry, it's true. :( There is no such thing as "Very interested" blah blah, you either do or you don't. NOBODY is going to say " I like you but your CD isnt loud enough", a "real" producer and a "real" label doesnt even want you messing with it, THEY would do it.

When he heard the demo we did last year he said "you need to take this mix to a mastering house so he can make it loud and competitive"...
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Dont listen to this umm well-known "producer", its BS. If he was in a position to offer you ANYTHING, he would or he would not, its that simple. Record labels don't say " Make this demo louder, then we will talk to you", it simply doesnt work this way.

I am not trying to discourage you: best of luck in your quest for a career and a label. I am merely telling HOW IT WORKS.
 
DavidK's got it nailed. If they were interested, they'd sign you before the next label does. Period. They'd sign you to a BS contract (from your point of view), but you'd see it as a win-win because you'd "be signed", and they'd like it because they'd have a lock on you without necessarily actually having to do anything with you.

If they're stringing you along it's because they don't consider you good enough to sign yet. It has nothing to do with the engineering quality of your recordings.

And I also say that I am not trying to be mean either. Just a little injection of reality.

A great book for understanding this reality along with the reality of $$$ when it comes to this stuff, as long as we are giving Amazon links, is "Breaking Into The Music Business" by Alan H. Siegel. This book should be a "must read" for any young musician looking to become The Next Big Thing.

G.

P.S. Montreal is the jazz capital of the half of the continent north of the Mason Dixon line. You want the really hot and interesting ladies, hit some of the jazz clubs up there. One weekend of that stuff and you'll find hitting the headbanger groupies will seem like pedophilia ;).
 
after reading this thread, i have one comment. thedewd just wants what almost every young rocker wants. to be famous and have tons of chicks. nothing wrong with that. if he thinks that squashing the mix is going to do then by all means let it be. maybe it will ,maybe it wont get him famous, but dont try to tell him his ideas, and musical genre is shit, i get alot of snobery from this thread.
 
I only want to spread knowledge, not hate or judgement...
 
SouthSIDE Glen said:
A great book for understanding this reality along with the reality of $$$ when it comes to this stuff, as long as we are giving Amazon links, is "Breaking Into The Music Business" by Alan H. Siegel. This book should be a "must read" for any young musician looking to become The Next Big Thing.

G.
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I have this book, and it's a good read with lots of info for everybody, seasoned or not. Personally, I am not trying to break into the biz, I am trying to break out :D I have a job as a symphony violinist and its fine, I would like to better utilize my "hobby" of recording and parlay it into actual CDs being in actual stores. The last thing I want is fame. I would of course take fortune :D , but I am not planning my retirement on French impressionistic classical music played on Synthesizers :rolleyes:

I've been forunate enough to play with a lot of the big acts in rock and classical. I've been less fortunate to know some of the "biz" people :eek: , they tend to be scumbags, really. However, they are merely interested in a buck, and if they can make a buck and give you a quarter, they will. "Artistic Integrity" is an oxymoron, if someone can take your rap/country/newage/marching band music and make a buck, they will. They dont care if its as loud as thunder or whisper quiet if people are going to give them money. They dont care if it was recorded by Mutt Lange or Mutt and Jeff, it's a tool for somebody to make money.

The bottom line: if someone can make some money off of you, they will. They dont want to make SOME money, they want to make a LOT, which is why the Clear Channel/Ashlee Simpson stuff exists. Too much effort goes into doing this and they dont want a "modest" profit, they want a fortune.
 
TheDewd said:
We are not yet signed, but a well known producer is very interested in us (has come to our shows and constantly talks with our manager). When he heard the demo we did last year he said "you need to take this mix to a mastering house so he can make it loud and competitive"...:D
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What a load of crap that is. You expect us to believe that your songs are good enough to draw label interest but they need you to have your demo mastered before they'll sign you? Nope! Impossible!

Is this jake? It's gotta be jake or his flower-loving friend, yeah? :)
 
zook250 said:
after reading this thread, i have one comment. thedewd just wants what almost every young rocker wants. to be famous and have tons of chicks. nothing wrong with that. if he thinks that squashing the mix is going to do then by all means let it be. maybe it will ,maybe it wont get him famous, but dont try to tell him his ideas, and musical genre is shit, i get alot of snobery from this thread.
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Shutup, stupid.

TheDewd is telling people with a helluva lot more knowledge about this particular issue "how it is". The thread starter had a specific question that has yet to be answered because of his either lack of knowledge or his quest for getting under people's skin. This board is for leaning, not pounding your chest. Except the Cave, you can pound your chest all night long in the Cave.
 
SouthSIDE Glen said:
DavidK's got it nailed. If they were interested, they'd sign you before the next label does. Period. They'd sign you to a BS contract (from your point of view), but you'd see it as a win-win because you'd "be signed", and they'd like it because they'd have a lock on you without necessarily actually having to do anything with you.
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In fact, he wanted us to sign this BS contract...but we didn't want to get tied to him.
 
TheDewd said:
In fact, he wanted us to sign this BS contract...but we didn't want to get tied to him.
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Well, kudos to you and your manager then, that was a smart move. :)

DavidK said:
Personally, I am not trying to break into the biz, I am trying to break out :D
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Hahahaha, now that is my nomination for Home Recording Forum Quote Of The Week. Perfect! :)

Mini thred hijack: Dave, do you have the "Revised for the 90s" edition or the new "Revised for the 21st Century" edition? I have the 90s one; I'm just wondering if there is a lot of worthwhile updates in the new edition?

G.
 
TheDewd said:
In fact, he wanted us to sign this BS contract...but we didn't want to get tied to him.
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I'm not going to try to tell him anything about what he doesn't know yet, he'll learn in time, but just had to say this is the funniest post in this thread.

But really, good luck!
You can't blame him for wanting it!
 
This thread is fantastic! Glen is this the one you were talking about? HAHAHA. If an A&R guy wants your demo mastered before they sign you, run. That's a gem. Chicks fame and fortune. I NEVER thought i would actually read someone SERIOUSLY posting that as a motivation to be a musician.

Glen, in reference to the Clarity thread, Dewd represents that bullshit greed sector perfectly. See!! there are plenty of dumbasses that want F&F (oh yeah and chicks) and could care less about the purity of creating music. (i know you said 90% of the industry and musicians are artisticly driven and not by F&F) but this guy is spot on!

I love this board. I love the helpful gardner web forum better but, that's ok. Home recording is ok too :)
 
Mini thred hijack: Dave, do you have the "Revised for the 90s" edition or the new "Revised for the 21st Century" edition? I have the 90s one;
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I have the 90s too.

I NEVER thought i would actually read someone SERIOUSLY posting that as a motivation to be a musician.

Glen, in reference to the Clarity thread, Dewd represents that bullshit greed sector perfectly.
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I am assuming that the Dewd is merely bored and has made up this persona. I am guessing the Dewd is in his 30s and has never stepped foot in "Montreal City".
 
It's more fun to assume he's a 20 year old long haired rocker who wants poontang and a tour bus though :)
 
I think it's Scott McClellan looking for a new gig as a home recording spokesperson.

G.
 
TheDewd said:
You should know that limiting and pushing the levels do MORE than make the mix louder. It gives a kind of "digital clipping edge" to the sound which is really nice for rock. If I take a reasonable mix with no clipping and I pump the volume control on my device, the mix doesn't sound radio like yet. If I squash it, then it's there.
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I try to avoid that digital clipping sound at all costs. I've heard some classic albums digitally remastered that have this sound. Why destroy a good mix? Just my personal opinion :)
 
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