Line 6 Poll

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Would you buy Line 6?

  • Yes - It's great

    Votes: 110 66.7%
  • No - It's not worth it

    Votes: 55 33.3%

  • Total voters
    165
Hey gotta throw my $0.02 in on this.

I've owned SS amps all my years of playing guitar, digitech RP250 modeler, a Flextone III Plus, a POD Pro rackmount........ it was the POD Pro that was the last nail for me. Recording direct sounded like crap. Leaving the cabinet emulator on while playing thru power amp and speakers had way more bass and low-mids than I could roll of, but turning them off made it sound like I was playing a cheap distortion box through a boombox or something. I couldnt win. So I'm done with 'em.

I'm considering a modeler again, but something less complicated than a POD. I kinda miss my digitech so I'm considering buying one again and putting it through a tube amp this time (like a cheap Epi Valve Junior). I'll rely on the amp for great clean tones and mildly overdriven tones (thats where modelers fall flat on their face anyway!) and use the modeler simply for effects and for high gain sounds.
 
Some Line 6 equipment, namely the Toneport or the Vendetta, aren't half bad. The Spider series amps are complete crap though. They're pretty much the laughing stock of the guitar world.

Spiders along with Marshall MGs and Marshal AVTs are some of the worst amps known to man.
 
Hey gotta throw my $0.02 in on this.

I've owned SS amps all my years of playing guitar, digitech RP250 modeler, a Flextone III Plus, a POD Pro rackmount........ it was the POD Pro that was the last nail for me. Recording direct sounded like crap. Leaving the cabinet emulator on while playing thru power amp and speakers had way more bass and low-mids than I could roll of, but turning them off made it sound like I was playing a cheap distortion box through a boombox or something. I couldnt win. So I'm done with 'em.

I'm considering a modeler again, but something less complicated than a POD. I kinda miss my digitech so I'm considering buying one again and putting it through a tube amp this time (like a cheap Epi Valve Junior). I'll rely on the amp for great clean tones and mildly overdriven tones (thats where modelers fall flat on their face anyway!) and use the modeler simply for effects and for high gain sounds.
Check out this if you want simple and a realistic clean.

https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=244716
 
I think for the price, most of their equipment gets the job done very well. The problem is that people expect to pay very little money for a piece of equipment like this that does lots of different things, and expect every one of those little things to be perfect for them. It just won't happen. I've been using their DL4 delay modeler for about a year now and love it. It has some sounds I don't care for and don't use, but overall, I could not ask for more for the 225 I paid for it new. It is so versatile and I have not yet found a delay sound I was looking for that I couldn't easily get with that pedal.
 
I bought the Johnson J-Station over the original POD--still use the J.

I would not buy a Line-6 guit.
 
I use the Gear Box and I like the flexibility of using a plug in, a lot!
 
Thought I'd pitch in my own experience with PODxt. Had one and was very impressed with the user friendliness of the editing software - very handy for DI. My main problem with the POD was the distortions - no matter how I tweaked it or what presets I used I never got an authentic sound that 'felt' right.
Nice for clean sounds and some of the stranger sounds work well with an ebow but the distortions didn't cut it for me. Then again, I have a very specific tone that I want so it's a case of horses for courses. I found the Boss GT-Pro better but now use a Rocktron Prophesy which has every tone I will ever want plus playing DI feels like actually playing through a real amp. Personal preference at the end of the day, good for certain things and certain playing styles but for expressive guitar playing it didn't work for me.
 
I just got thru deatiling how I feel about them in my thread about hating Line 6!

After some inital difficulties, I am happy to say that my Line 6 Spider III 150 watt head and 4x12 cab with Celestions sounds great, and didn't cost me the soul of my firstborn. Whether or not it will hold up, who knows. I doubt it, but for now, it is working perfectly.

I swear that some people have the golden ears of a tone snob - if it's not really expensive, they seem to think, IT CANT SOUND GOOD - Tell you what - make the comparison yourself - this thing generates some very serious tone, and all those who have heard me play thru it think so, so far, including a friend in a band that uses a MESA rig. I am not a newbie, either - I've been using tube combos for a long time and been very happy - the half stack is new to me, but mine BLOWS AWAY many I tried.

The phrase you get what you pay for doesn't apply here to the sound - it's the build that worries me - too much plastic...I love tubes and vintage, so this wasn't an easy transition, but I'm happy...

A few years ago, I was visiting a vedor who built some of our products. They are an assembly house (circuit boards, assemble products, wiring etc.) who also built Line 6 products. I saw many of them there. The problem was this vendor really sucked eggs. We pulled out because they were not capable of building anywhere close to 80% working product.


Has it changed?

Who knows.
 
This is an older thread, but I'd like to put in my two cents because so many people are hating on line6 for live stuff.

I'm a guitarist in a touring band and also a live sound engineer. I'm a house engineer at a medium size rock club and also do the occasional festival. Personally, I am never more excited than when I see a guitarist load in with either a high end line6 amp (vetta, hd147, flextone3, etc.) or a pod or podxt.

I personally play through a podxt on stage. No amp. I just get my stage sound through monitors. I've owned all sorts of amps over the years. Vintage fender blackface, marshall jcm 2000 stacks, mesa stacks. These were all great, but I gave them up for line6 about two years ago. Let me explain how I got here.

I had been playing through a marshall stack with a bunch of rack gear (tc electronics g-major, etc) for about four years and had always had engineers telling me I was too loud and had to turn down. It was around this time I started working at club running sound a few nights a week. I quickly noticed that all the engineers were right - whats coming off stage really fucks with your mix! If an amp is too loud to begin with, there is nothing you can do to get it to sit well and make the band sound like they should sound. Guitarists tell me all the time "it needs to be loud! Thats how our band sounds!" What they don't understand is that... I can make it loud for you!!! That's why I'm sticking a microphone in front of your amp! If you let ME make it loud for you, I can also take out offending frequencies that would otherwise keep vocals from cutting through a mix, or muddying up the low end of the mix.

So, I started turning down at shows. Engineers were happy, and we actually started getting complements from the audience on how much better we sounded!

It was around the time of this realization that my amp started crapping out on me. I was desperate for a rig and couldn't find anything to replace it in time for a gig. So I grabbed my pod 2.0 that I had used for some recordings and took it to the show! I plugged it in, hooked up up midi floorboard and programmed some basic patches for what I needed. After a bit of messing around with my monitor mix, I was actually very happy with what I was hearing! The gig went well and afterwards we talked to our engineer to see what he thought. He was blown away! He'd never had so much control over a guitar sound mixwise, because there was NO guitar coming off stage whatsoever!!!

Since then, I've stepped up to the podxt. The amp models are much more convincing. My only complaint about it would be that it seems like for live use, i need to cut out 2k and 4k quite a bit on the pod's graphic eq to get a good sound. It sound good in the end, but many non tech inclined users would be scared off by needing to do "deep editing" on patches this way.

Also, to my ears, the line out from line6 stuff is great for live use!!! It gives a great picture of the tone that you can carve into very good sounding stuff with a bit of eq. In fact, one band I've worked with recently just switched to hd147 stuff. The first few shows I did since the switch, I mic'd amps with 57's and ran line outs from the heads too. After experimenting with both sound throughout the show, I eventually settled on using ONLY the line out!

So I'm all about line6!! Just throw away your preconceptions about modeling and give it an honest chance! You might like it!! Its pretty awesome to have 50 different amps, a bunch of cabs, and a zillion effects all wrapped up in a little kidney shaped unit!

And to the guy that said the jcm800 cut through the mix much better than the other guitarists line6... To me, it sounds like the marshall guy was probably being a volume hog. This is something the engineer should have taken care of at soundcheck!!
 
well now that line666 released the "Pocket POD" I've lost alot of love I had for them. I still treasure my XT but the pocket POD is comparable to a digitech RP50. OK im ready to get flamed.:D
 
This is an older thread, but I'd like to put in my two cents because so many people are hating on line6 for live stuff.

I'm a guitarist in a touring band and also a live sound engineer. I'm a house engineer at a medium size rock club and also do the occasional festival. Personally, I am never more excited than when I see a guitarist load in with either a high end line6 amp (vetta, hd147, flextone3, etc.) or a pod or podxt.

I personally play through a podxt on stage. No amp. I just get my stage sound through monitors. I've owned all sorts of amps over the years. Vintage fender blackface, marshall jcm 2000 stacks, mesa stacks. These were all great, but I gave them up for line6 about two years ago. Let me explain how I got here.

I had been playing through a marshall stack with a bunch of rack gear (tc electronics g-major, etc) for about four years and had always had engineers telling me I was too loud and had to turn down. It was around this time I started working at club running sound a few nights a week. I quickly noticed that all the engineers were right - whats coming off stage really fucks with your mix! If an amp is too loud to begin with, there is nothing you can do to get it to sit well and make the band sound like they should sound. Guitarists tell me all the time "it needs to be loud! Thats how our band sounds!" What they don't understand is that... I can make it loud for you!!! That's why I'm sticking a microphone in front of your amp! If you let ME make it loud for you, I can also take out offending frequencies that would otherwise keep vocals from cutting through a mix, or muddying up the low end of the mix.

So, I started turning down at shows. Engineers were happy, and we actually started getting complements from the audience on how much better we sounded!

It was around the time of this realization that my amp started crapping out on me. I was desperate for a rig and couldn't find anything to replace it in time for a gig. So I grabbed my pod 2.0 that I had used for some recordings and took it to the show! I plugged it in, hooked up up midi floorboard and programmed some basic patches for what I needed. After a bit of messing around with my monitor mix, I was actually very happy with what I was hearing! The gig went well and afterwards we talked to our engineer to see what he thought. He was blown away! He'd never had so much control over a guitar sound mixwise, because there was NO guitar coming off stage whatsoever!!!

Since then, I've stepped up to the podxt. The amp models are much more convincing. My only complaint about it would be that it seems like for live use, i need to cut out 2k and 4k quite a bit on the pod's graphic eq to get a good sound. It sound good in the end, but many non tech inclined users would be scared off by needing to do "deep editing" on patches this way.

Also, to my ears, the line out from line6 stuff is great for live use!!! It gives a great picture of the tone that you can carve into very good sounding stuff with a bit of eq. In fact, one band I've worked with recently just switched to hd147 stuff. The first few shows I did since the switch, I mic'd amps with 57's and ran line outs from the heads too. After experimenting with both sound throughout the show, I eventually settled on using ONLY the line out!

So I'm all about line6!! Just throw away your preconceptions about modeling and give it an honest chance! You might like it!! Its pretty awesome to have 50 different amps, a bunch of cabs, and a zillion effects all wrapped up in a little kidney shaped unit!

And to the guy that said the jcm800 cut through the mix much better than the other guitarists line6... To me, it sounds like the marshall guy was probably being a volume hog. This is something the engineer should have taken care of at soundcheck!!

Interesting perspective ....... and I've gotten to where I do about half of my gigs with a Rocktron Utopia direct into the PA (MUCH better sound than a POD even if preset access is cumbersome).
But the truth is, I mostly don't trust soundmen to have control over my sound. 99% of them suck.
I do hear good ones occassionally but the vast majority of them, when you're working at local or regional level gigs, just aren't any good plus their idea of what my git should sound like is often not the same as mine.
In Baton Rouge I'd have them come up and ask me to turn down and I'd ask them if I was too loud because I don't want to be too loud or dominate the mix or drown out other people in the band. They'd always say, "No ... you're not too loud but I don't have you in the PA."
So then I'd ask if I was loud enough.
They'd say, "Yeah ..... you're coming thru fine" .... well if I'm loud enough and not too loud then I don't really care if I'm in the PA. And often a vocal mic'll pick up enough of an amp behind it to take care of spread.
So if I could always count on a great soundman, I'd be delighted toi just use my little Epi Valve Jr. ...... but since I can't, I prefer to have control of my own sound.
As for the cutting thru ...... as stated above, I have a buttload of modelers and I know how to use them. The single thing I dislike most about them is with a nice tube amp, I can just 'bear down' on the git if I want to bring the git out front but modelers usually don't really respond to that much.
Not cutting thru is one of the biggest problems I, personally, have with them ...... that and the 'processed git sound' they usually have. The Utopia has about the least processed sounding sounds and most real sounding models I've gotten out of any of my modelers so far.
 
I mostly don't trust soundmen to have control over my sound. 99% of them suck.

VERY true! That's why we now have our own engineer that we take to every gig! But the reasons for this expand far beyond guitar tones and more into the "general mix quality" category (we play with backing tracks from our cd so its important for the engineer to know the material and not have any one element of the music dominating the mix... besides vox).

Before we got our own guy though... I would simply listen to the front of house mix, and tell the engineer what I thought. I would even start out before setting up by telling the engineer about usual problem frequencies with the pod. Granted, not everyone using a pod is an engineer, nor should they desire to be one, but it definitely helps!!! Hopefully line6's next generation of modelers will have some sort of "basic" mode for people without such knowledge that just want a good guitar tone! It's my experience that the preset sounds on almost any modeler are never close to sounding cool and require much more deep editing than a lot of people would probably care to do.
 
I checked out that rocktron unit! Very cool looking. If it only had midi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I've been vocal about Line 6 in other threads but the question here is way too vague to really answer.

I have the Pod XT Live and here's what I think:

1. In isolation, it's worth $400 (I paid $350) as a songwriting or experimentation tool.

2. Everybody seems to prefer the Behringer V-Amp (of some model/version) but I've never played the V-Amp so I have no personal opinion comparing the two - maybe the Pod XT Live is overpriced in comparison.

3. I have played the Pod XT Live on stage, using bass guitar, but only for the effects. It worked great and it was nice to have a fully programmable, single unit effects board, with onboard tuner/mute, and volume/wah. I played straight into an Ampeg B2-RE, which is little more than a clean power power amp with tone knobs. It sounded great, even for bass guitar, although obviously some effects don't work so well (specifically the synths, octave fuzz, etc. that need to track the note you're playing).

4. If I was rich, I would just collect real equipment instead, keep it all at my lake house recording studio, and pay foreign girls with low self esteem and French maid outfits to vacuum and dust. Don't judge me! It's a free country and I can collect vintage equipment if I want!
 
The phrase you get what you pay for doesn't apply here to the sound - it's the build that worries me - too much plastic...I love tubes and vintage, so this wasn't an easy transition, but I'm happy...

Actually this is something I forgot to consider. I've read online about computer failures on the Line 6 stuff. Power on gets an error message on the screen or nothing, and then no sound. Response for Line 6 seemed kinda dodgy - a "this happens with electronics, yadda yadda, we'll fix it if it's under warranty" but the warranty isn't very long.

Obviously this isn't an issue with a 1967 Fender Bandmaster, but the Line 6 is far less likely to catch on fire. :D

I took those technical problems into consideration and decided to buy & hope it lasts, but "you get what you pay for" is right. Compared to what it claims to do, it's a real bargain. I'll be sad, frustrated, and disappointed if it fails, but I won't be shocked.

(Also I voted "Yes I would buy Line 6" since literally this is what I would do, but the question is really broad...)
 
i have pod farm platinum and gearbox gold..plenty to play with and better than some of the modellers ive heard or used..great value...pity my guitars crap and i can barely play :)
 
Yes, it's a pity this thread started two years ago and hasn't been brought back till now.
 
Oh Bobby, I was thinkin' of you last week when I came within a frog's hair of buyin' a Utopia.
 
Oh Bobby, I was thinkin' of you last week when I came within a frog's hair of buyin' a Utopia.
I wish I'd have waited 'till they came out with the G200 so I could have a tuner and better switching capabilities but I still use my G100 quite a bit since it sounds very amplike thru a PA. I'm a real fan, as you know.

But mostly I'm using my Mesa Blue Angel these days.
I am lusting for the new Mesa Mark V though.
 
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