A Reel Person
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Zeke's studio's in a trailer,...
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Let's say that one of your recording clients refused to pay there session bill.......
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Alchemist3k
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Re: Re: Let's say that one of your recording clients refused to pay there session bill.......
While I realise this is meant as a humorous comment, it is worthy of note to all studio owners that if you do this, or even simply pass on some copies to friends etc without the band's permission, you are likely to be in breach of the band's copyright interests and can be legitmately sued in a court of law. In other words, don't do it kids.
magnifasint said:
While I realise this is meant as a humorous comment, it is worthy of note to all studio owners that if you do this, or even simply pass on some copies to friends etc without the band's permission, you are likely to be in breach of the band's copyright interests and can be legitmately sued in a court of law. In other words, don't do it kids.
Fletcher
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Chris Tondreau said:
No dude, a collection agency can't garnish anyone's wages... they can get a court order to facilitate that... but what we're talking here wouldn't cover the legal fees involved in the process.
Collection agencies are a complete and total waste of time, effort and energy... however, being a minor, chances are rather good that our young friend here can (as "Begbie" so eloquently called it in 'Trainspotting') "teach them the discipline of the baseball bat" without looking at more than a couple of years of 'juvie' time [Zeke, you'll wanna check the legal age of "adulthood" in your locale... it varies from place to place and you could end up in a serious jackpot if you're not careful]... meanwhile... collection agencies can't do jack shit.
BTW, if you ever want to turn off a 'collection agency'... all you have to do is send them a 'notarized/registered letter' telling them that any further contact by their firm will be considered 'harassment' and appropriate measures will be taken... stops them cold.
crosstudio
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do the tracks for them,
let them hear the mix,
then DEMAND your money.
no CD, no MP3, no nothing without full payment.
when i was still living with my folks [1989], i had a 4-track cassette recorder [tascam porta-05] hooked up to cakewalk via an opcode mqx-32. my friends were coming over for free and doing 'pre-production'. then they would go to nightflight's B-studio (oxon hill, md) which had a 8-track reel (tascam 388).
one day the dude from nightflight asked me how much I was charging. when I told him I wasn't, he laughed at me.
i started charging like $10 an hour, and all my 'friends' went away... but they came back. then i got my own blackface ADAT [1990?] partially paid for by my friends and started charging $15 an hour.
charge what the market will bear. at least it will help offset the cost of buying new gear.
let them hear the mix,
then DEMAND your money.
no CD, no MP3, no nothing without full payment.
when i was still living with my folks [1989], i had a 4-track cassette recorder [tascam porta-05] hooked up to cakewalk via an opcode mqx-32. my friends were coming over for free and doing 'pre-production'. then they would go to nightflight's B-studio (oxon hill, md) which had a 8-track reel (tascam 388).
one day the dude from nightflight asked me how much I was charging. when I told him I wasn't, he laughed at me.
i started charging like $10 an hour, and all my 'friends' went away... but they came back. then i got my own blackface ADAT [1990?] partially paid for by my friends and started charging $15 an hour.
charge what the market will bear. at least it will help offset the cost of buying new gear.
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darnold
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its all in the contracting. make them sign a contract agreeing to pay the costs. thats obvious. make sure you put on things that cover you for damage also if they do any damage to the studio. chances are they wont but its better to be safe than sorry. then for the kicker, the contract can say that you own copyright and all legalities of the material on the CD unless their is bill is paid. I would also put things on it for disclaimer if they decide to put other peoples copyrighted material on there. You cant be fully protected from this but it helps because then they cant bust you if you had no idea what they were putting on was already copyrighted and stuff.
You wont have to take them to court, but you could. But either way you will have rights to there CD if they dont pay it, which is really nice.
Danny
You wont have to take them to court, but you could. But either way you will have rights to there CD if they dont pay it, which is really nice.
Danny
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darnold
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btw. dont forget to get the contract approved by a lawyer because they are hard to right up without leaving holes in it.
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pkmusic
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Would anyone be willing to share a copy of the contract you give out to clients? Would love to see an example of what it should look like.
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knightsy
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Fletcher said:
Yeah, and then they turn around and try to collect on their own client! Scum.
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MrStitch
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Bah, to hell with the contract.
Tell them that your policy is 3 or 4 hour blocks paid in full before recording begins.
This will get you small chunks at a time, but they'll easily be able to pay the smaller sum... as time passes, they get more money, and the money go's in your pocket.
The further they get into a project, assuming it sounds good, THEY will be the ones fighting to get that little extra cash to finish.
Oh yeah, Also thinking of giving a half hour freebie before the actual recording and mixing starts. Not only do they get to hear your skills for free... you also get a good sample of the bands groove, and rough scketch of how to work with 'em.
In essence, you'll hook 'em with the free one, get a good taste of the band, and the end result will be twice as good.
Watch the customers roll on in!
Tell them that your policy is 3 or 4 hour blocks paid in full before recording begins.
This will get you small chunks at a time, but they'll easily be able to pay the smaller sum... as time passes, they get more money, and the money go's in your pocket.
The further they get into a project, assuming it sounds good, THEY will be the ones fighting to get that little extra cash to finish.
Oh yeah, Also thinking of giving a half hour freebie before the actual recording and mixing starts. Not only do they get to hear your skills for free... you also get a good sample of the bands groove, and rough scketch of how to work with 'em.
In essence, you'll hook 'em with the free one, get a good taste of the band, and the end result will be twice as good.
Watch the customers roll on in!
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wjgypsy
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I like all the great advice you guys are giving me, but i don't know which one's to take. Should I Start off doing freebees for a while and then work on up the scale or should i just start out at $15-$20 and do that 30min freebee?
Downside Studio
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Well here's a total other approach....I always charge afterwards, unless I don't get to meet the client in person (cd duplication projects)
I never had problems with collecting my money. Sure, people are always late with payments, but they all pay in the end. I have been professionally doing this for several years, not only in the studio but also in the other two departments of my company: the theatre rental and the music school. In total I serve at the moment about 250 different clients yearly, and have never had a problem. My method is: first make sure you deliver what you're promising, than charge them for. it. By the time they receive the final product, dozens of people have been introduced in the whole recording/production process, so the band has a name to keep up. They can't claim the recording never happened since the product is being marketed.
I should mention though that I always have a good conversation with potential clients before a recording session. If they want to book x days, I always tell them to have a budget available for 1.5 times that amount. If that is a problem: Don't start, you will get into budget trouble. If all goes to plan, you'll have money left, but in most cases You'll need the full amount.
Works for me!
I never had problems with collecting my money. Sure, people are always late with payments, but they all pay in the end. I have been professionally doing this for several years, not only in the studio but also in the other two departments of my company: the theatre rental and the music school. In total I serve at the moment about 250 different clients yearly, and have never had a problem. My method is: first make sure you deliver what you're promising, than charge them for. it. By the time they receive the final product, dozens of people have been introduced in the whole recording/production process, so the band has a name to keep up. They can't claim the recording never happened since the product is being marketed.
I should mention though that I always have a good conversation with potential clients before a recording session. If they want to book x days, I always tell them to have a budget available for 1.5 times that amount. If that is a problem: Don't start, you will get into budget trouble. If all goes to plan, you'll have money left, but in most cases You'll need the full amount.
Works for me!
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shAkEz_gk
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I'm stickin with the Suge Knight option.
Let's say that one of your recording clients refused to pay there session bill.......
Let's say there's a Mossberg Pump velcro'd underneath your production table......
Let's say that one of your recording clients refused to pay there session bill.......
Let's say there's a Mossberg Pump velcro'd underneath your production table......
A Reel Person
It's Too Funky in Here!!!
Let's say you're doing hard time for thug tactics.