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Me and a friend doing a song I finally got around to reworking some nuance parts that I remembered I always wanted to change. Any/all comments welcome.
 
I think the main vocal is a tad hot. Might be the way you want it, but I am thinking it could get pulled back a dB or two. I didn't hear anything bad in the song mix.

Hope the feedback helps.
 
I think the main vocal is a tad hot. Might be the way you want it, but I am thinking it could get pulled back a dB or two. I didn't hear anything bad in the song mix.

Hope the feedback helps.
I am in similar frame of thought. The issue is the in/out of the music bed makes it hot then buried - then hot - then buried. I'm playing w/ several factors at the moment ... trying to gain pinpoint clarity.
 
I am in similar frame of thought. The issue is the in/out of the music bed makes it hot then buried - then hot - then buried. I'm playing w/ several factors at the moment ... trying to gain pinpoint clarity.
You can accomplish this by automating the mix - I noticed what you are talking about - the vocal goes underneath - BTW the tone and timbre of the vocals have a McCartney like Quality to them to me.
 
You can accomplish this by automating the mix - I noticed what you are talking about - the vocal goes underneath - BTW the tone and timbre of the vocals have a McCartney like Quality to them to me.
Yeah - they're 3db too loud in the quiet passages but when I roll the track back down, they wind up diving under the chorus vocals too far. It's not hard to automate it. I'm just wondering if I can maybe get away with a different technique by separating the parts on different tracks etc ...

Thanks for the thoughts P!!
 
Yeah - they're 3db too loud in the quiet passages but when I roll the track back down, they wind up diving under the chorus vocals too far. It's not hard to automate it. I'm just wondering if I can maybe get away with a different technique by separating the parts on different tracks etc ...

Thanks for the thoughts P!!
Depending on your DAW, I have been splitting the vocal track and raising or lowering the section to get my levels right, then using the fades for final adjustment/level of the track. I think it helps by using less compression and not using automation. I don't know why, but it seems automation is such a PITA while a work is in progress.

I wouldn't say my approach is the best, but it seems from a workflow it helps me at least. Makes final mixing less complicated.
 
Depending on your DAW, I have been splitting the vocal track and raising or lowering the section to get my levels right, then using the fades for final adjustment/level of the track. I think it helps by using less compression and not using automation. I don't know why, but it seems automation is such a PITA while a work is in progress.

I wouldn't say my approach is the best, but it seems from a workflow it helps me at least. Makes final mixing less complicated.
George Martin had a production trick where he'd layer and effect different passages in a song to lend subtle production lift to sections. It could be quite effective. Putting different parts on different tracks and making them sound slightly different (for the same singer) is the easiest method to achieve that goal.

I haven't decided yet if that's what I want to do. If I decide to leave the vocal untouched and JUST change the levels, then I will just automate the volume.
 
Depending on your DAW, I have been splitting the vocal track and raising or lowering the section to get my levels right, then using the fades for final adjustment/level of the track. I think it helps by using less compression and not using automation. I don't know why, but it seems automation is such a PITA while a work is in progress.

I wouldn't say my approach is the best, but it seems from a workflow it helps me at least. Makes final mixing less complicated.
Lowering the volume by using db instead of Automation is a bit more accurate than using the Auto function.
 
Lowering the volume by using db instead of Automation is a bit more accurate than using the Auto function.
Plus I tend to loathe having to fiddle with all the automation points later if I decide to ultimately move to a different gain stage scheme. I then just delete the whole envelope rather than fuss w/ it.

It's easier just to adjust the gain, set, and forget.
 
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