Lemontree's colaboration thread...I need your help!

[SnakeDog5050]

hmmm, starting to wonder if I should redo the vocals..it was my first try at it and I know I can sound better (less mistakes)

Hey, I finally made the search all the way back to page 3 to find your version. Cool stuff! I like it Nice feel to it overall, I especially like the little vibratos in there here and there. Gives it a little of a haunting feel which I think goes great with the song. I can hear maybe the choruses being stronger too with the addition of some different backup vocals in there too.

 

[LemonTree]

Hey, I finally made the search all the way back to page 3 to find your version. Cool stuff! I like it Nice feel to it overall, I especially like the little vibratos in there here and there. Gives it a little of a haunting feel which I think goes great with the song. I can hear maybe the choruses being stronger too with the addition of some different backup vocals in there too.

Snake..here's your calling card.....

I think...you may differ, the hammond should come in at 3:14 and kill out at 3:40 before the solo. I'm looking for builds n swells, no need to go solotastic unless you think it's gonna fit in there.

Here's a QUICK mix with Cincy's vox and Gorty's solo. The drums are a disgrace at the moment, I'll turn my attention to them soon.

True.... I just grabbed your vocals and I think they are sweet, but...not a big but(t)... compared to cincy's lead now they'e kinda all over the place. I can do one of two things.... I can cut n paste the parts I like to fit with his or 2... you can do a retake with him as the guide to follow...2 makes my job easier but it's not compulsary



It's almost time for this cake to hit the oven guys, any thoughts on farming it out for mixing?

Here's the latest quick mix Deception Forget about the drums, I know they suck...along with everything else. If you're adding, do it to this one though

 

[SnakeDog5050]

Snake..here's your calling card.....

I think...you may differ, the hammond should come in at 3:14 and kill out at 3:40 before the solo. I'm looking for builds n swells, no need to go solotastic unless you think it's gonna fit in there.

Cool, you really mixed Cincy's vocals in there well! Sounds great so far.
I'll record a new organ part right now and see what happens. yeah my organ going solo last time was just for fun since it was a demo. I'll get back to you later today

 

[LemonTree]

Cool, you really mixed Cincy's vocals in there well! Sounds great so far.
I'll record a new organ part right now and see what happens. yeah my organ going solo last time was just for fun since it was a demo. I'll get back to you later today

I just threw the vox on top to see how it sounded. Nail that hammond part n we'll have something to really play with...

 

[cincy_kid]

Snake: Thanks for the compliment man, I appreciate it


I just took my first listen to the mix Lemon and here are my comments:

I think some cool hammond would be sweet Snake, get on it!

As far as my vocals, I am not that happy with them since I only did a couple of takes to get this down and a few places I am off or out of key and even the harmoonies in places go off...I would like to redo them however, now is not the best time since I recently have gotten an ear infection which makes me not able to hear out of my right ear. Does it matter? eh, maybe not but I would rather be able to hear before I sing again.

So run with this version for now and I may give you something later Lemon if you still need it.

True, my 2 cents (for what they are worth) is to do 1 of 2 things:

a) As Lemon mentioned use this as a guide and maybe get a good verse where Lemon can maybe have alternating versus - maybe mix the chorus depending on how they mesh together.

b) Throw in back vocals and those emotional melodies that you do so well to compliment my vocals to round out this cool song.

Also Lemon as far as farming out the mixing, I think you are doing a great job on your own and since it is your song, i think you should do it yourself, but thats ultimately your decision

 

[Gorty]

Snake..here's your calling card.....

I think...you may differ, the hammond should come in at 3:14 and kill out at 3:40 before the solo. I'm looking for builds n swells, no need to go solotastic unless you think it's gonna fit in there.

Here's a QUICK mix with Cincy's vox and Gorty's solo. The drums are a disgrace at the moment, I'll turn my attention to them soon.

True.... I just grabbed your vocals and I think they are sweet, but...not a big but(t)... compared to cincy's lead now they'e kinda all over the place. I can do one of two things.... I can cut n paste the parts I like to fit with his or 2... you can do a retake with him as the guide to follow...2 makes my job easier but it's not compulsary



It's almost time for this cake to hit the oven guys, any thoughts on farming it out for mixing?

Here's the latest quick mix Deception Forget about the drums, I know they suck...along with everything else. If you're adding, do it to this one though

So far so good Lemon,

I really am looking forward to hearing what could be done with True retracking her vocals and blending/harmonising/alternating them with cincy's.

As to the mixing I would (if you) mix the tune to your best capabilities and then out of curiosity and as an execise for any who wanted to play then put it up for people to have a go!

I am looking forward also to having that hole filled with some SnakeDude organ .

Let's keep it rolling everyone, nice work so far to all who have contributed!

Groty

 

[true-eurt]

Snake..here's your calling card.....

I think...you may differ, the hammond should come in at 3:14 and kill out at 3:40 before the solo. I'm looking for builds n swells, no need to go solotastic unless you think it's gonna fit in there.

Here's a QUICK mix with Cincy's vox and Gorty's solo. The drums are a disgrace at the moment, I'll turn my attention to them soon.

True.... I just grabbed your vocals and I think they are sweet, but...not a big but(t)... compared to cincy's lead now they'e kinda all over the place. I can do one of two things.... I can cut n paste the parts I like to fit with his or 2... you can do a retake with him as the guide to follow...2 makes my job easier but it's not compulsary



It's almost time for this cake to hit the oven guys, any thoughts on farming it out for mixing?

Here's the latest quick mix Deception Forget about the drums, I know they suck...along with everything else. If you're adding, do it to this one though

Lemon, your song is sounding really good. I don't see a need to have anyone else mix, other than for the sake of fun and experience...(like me for example). Do you think you mixed it badly?

Cincy has done an awesome job on the vocals!! Very professional sounding.

Snakedog....I am all keyed up and excited about your organ part!!

And r00 Boy....you kick much ass on your solo!!! Excellent performance....of course, I never thought it would be any other way!!!

Lemon, I will see about retracking perhaps tomarrow, but may have to wait until Monday or Tuesday. I have had a bit of a cold, and kinda want to wait a couple of days if possible. I hope I can record well enough for this. Choc won't be doing the re-take.

~tr00wi~

 

[Gorty]

Lemon, your song is sounding really good. I don't see a need to have anyone else mix, other than for the sake of fun and experience...(like me for example). Do you think you mixed it badly?

Cincy has done an awesome job on the vocals!! Very professional sounding.

Snakedog....I am all keyed up and excited about your organ part!!

And r00 Boy....you kick much ass on your solo!!! Excellent performance....of course, I never thought it would be any other way!!!

Lemon, I will see about retracking perhaps tomarrow, but may have to wait until Monday or Tuesday. I have had a bit of a cold, and kinda want to wait a couple of days if possible. I hope I can record well enough for this. Choc won't be doing the re-take.

~tr00wi~

Hey Tr00,

Your vocals together with cincy's will set this tune alight, I can't wait to hear them Tr00.

Just do as Lemon said: Track the vocals dry (effects will be added in the mixing process), Use cincy's as a guide! You will do fine !!....You can do it Mum! ..The trick in being to not do too much..The old saying goes:Less is More!!!!

PS..Thanx for the vote of confidence again Tr00!



gROTY!

 

[true-eurt]

Hey Tr00,

Your vocals together with cincy's will set this tune alight, I can't wait to hear them Tr00.

Just do as Lemon said: Track the vocals dry (effects will be added in the mixing process), Use cincy's as a guide! You will do fine !!....You can do it Mum! ..The trick in being to not do too much..The old saying goes:Less is More!!!!

PS..Thanx for the vote of confidence again Tr00!



gROTY!

Thanks gROTY!

Yes dry....dry....dry.

Less is more? All you guys say that!!

Your welkom r00 !!

 

[choctaw]

You can make a Lemon or a Lemonade out of this...

LemonTree this is what you wrote as you started the Lemontree’s Colaboration Thread “If you want to sing it you can do it in any style you like. I just want to see where this goes” .

This is my take. There are may styles; country, rap, jazz, rock, and other types of performing styles, all have different ways of presenting their individual capabilities. Instead of having only one song, with everyone’s talent jammed into it like a toss salad, why not do several versions? That way each person is not required to fit into your one size fits all mode.

Cincy Kid, your performance is right on and needs no other voices to add any flavor. The statement adding your 2 cents about True reminds me of a quarterback telling another second string quarterback……..hey just let me be your guide in this game and your performance will be fine………just watch me. I understand your position here, you have been singled out as the front runner which is clearly evident by what is being said. So, how are you going to accept this position in the song without trying to find a way for the others to take part. It is sad that the words chosen come off as telling a performer (True) to redo their effort and maybe get a good verse or two that can be added, or just do some back vocals consisting of emotional melodies that might fit in here or there. I am pointing fingers here… Gorty said it too; Do as Lemon said: Use cincy's as a guide! You will do fine ..You can do it Mum....The trick being, is not to do too much...The old saying goes….Less is More !

We all have feeling in our lives and like to be complimented, appreciated and accepted. That is not always the case where talents are judged. Lemon, at least consider my suggested option of making several different vesions. You never know, you may really like the variety, and can enjoy your intended talent at mixing music rather than putting individual ability into one big pot.

Choctaw

 

[LemonTree]

LemonTree this is what you wrote as you started the Lemontree’s Colaboration Thread “If you want to sing it you can do it in any style you like. I just want to see where this goes” .

This is my take. There are may styles; country, rap, jazz, rock, and other types of performing styles, all have different ways of presenting their individual capabilities. Instead of having only one song, with everyone’s talent jammed into it like a toss salad, why not do several versions? That way each person is not required to fit into your one size fits all mode.

Cincy Kid, your performance is right on and needs no other voices to add any flavor. The statement adding your 2 cents about True reminds me of a quarterback telling another second string quarterback……..hey just let me be your guide in this game and your performance will be fine………just watch me. I understand your position here, you have been singled out as the front runner which is clearly evident by what is being said. So, how are you going to accept this position in the song without trying to find a way for the others to take part. It is sad that the words chosen come off as telling a performer (True) to redo their effort and maybe get a good verse or two that can be added, or just do some back vocals consisting of emotional melodies that might fit in here or there. I am pointing fingers here… Gorty said it too; Do as Lemon said: Use cincy's as a guide! You will do fine ..You can do it Mum....The trick being, is not to do too much...The old saying goes….Less is More !

We all have feeling in our lives and like to be complimented, appreciated and accepted. That is not always the case where talents are judged. Lemon, at least consider my suggested option of making several different vesions. You never know, you may really like the variety, and can enjoy your intended talent at mixing music rather than putting individual ability into one big pot.

Choctaw

First off..... are you drunk?

you have no idea whai I have planned for this mix. When I said True could use Cincy's vox for a guide, all I meant was, he comes in at the right time on every verse/chorus. True's vocal doesn't and if you've ever tried, cutting up a vocal and trying to sync it in perfect time isn't an easy job. Now she has a vocal to follow...that's all.

Who's to say I won't love another vocal take from True and use that as the main vox?

I think you're way out of line, choc...pitty cause you seem like a nice guy on the surface. This isn't a competition...it's an old song of mine, about 20 years old to be precise, I'm just looking for some new ingredients to spice up the dish a little.

You getting sore cause there's a chance I'm not gonna use the vocals you tracked? Here's a tip...do a search for "pop filter"

peace

 

[LemonTree]

True, don't take the above the wrong way. I'm not telling you to retrack the vocal, there's a LOT I can use from what you've given me already. I'd just like to hear what you can do over the top of what I now have.

Some of the best producers I know have nasty ways of getting the best performances from people...I'm not one of them, this isn't a tactic. It's just an internet collaboration. There's no browny points on offer to any of us for this, just a warm glow at the end of the day for being able to link up and share what we got with each other. The way I see it we're gonna end up with one of them songs that sticks to our hard drives for years and you can turn round and tell your mates when they ask......... yeah, that is me, I done that with a few guys from the other side of the planet, neat eh?

 

[Gorty]

LemonTree this is what you wrote as you started the Lemontree’s Colaboration Thread “If you want to sing it you can do it in any style you like. I just want to see where this goes” .

This is my take. There are may styles; country, rap, jazz, rock, and other types of performing styles, all have different ways of presenting their individual capabilities. Instead of having only one song, with everyone’s talent jammed into it like a toss salad, why not do several versions? That way each person is not required to fit into your one size fits all mode.

Cincy Kid, your performance is right on and needs no other voices to add any flavor. The statement adding your 2 cents about True reminds me of a quarterback telling another second string quarterback……..hey just let me be your guide in this game and your performance will be fine………just watch me. I understand your position here, you have been singled out as the front runner which is clearly evident by what is being said. So, how are you going to accept this position in the song without trying to find a way for the others to take part. It is sad that the words chosen come off as telling a performer (True) to redo their effort and maybe get a good verse or two that can be added, or just do some back vocals consisting of emotional melodies that might fit in here or there. I am pointing fingers here… Gorty said it too; Do as Lemon said: Use cincy's as a guide! You will do fine ..You can do it Mum....The trick being, is not to do too much...The old saying goes….Less is More !

We all have feeling in our lives and like to be complimented, appreciated and accepted. That is not always the case where talents are judged. Lemon, at least consider my suggested option of making several different vesions. You never know, you may really like the variety, and can enjoy your intended talent at mixing music rather than putting individual ability into one big pot.

Choctaw

Hey Choctaw,

Your suggested option is a great idea and ultimately one that Lemon will be the final adjudicator on!
However I have a very deep passion for music and take it very seriously, and when I make suggestions or rally ideas around of how I envision certain talents meshing together to create something truly unique, I don't do it to appease anyones feelings or to make them feel wanted and accepted, I aim for the end result being a piece of music that displays all types and levels of talent!.......Ultimately for the benefit of the tune in question!

I just wanted to let everyone involved in this project know why I may make some suggestions in regards to any ideas or visions I have!.........Seeing as I had the finger bone pointed at me!



Groty

 

[SnakeDog5050]

Hey Lemon, just a quick update... hope you're not waiting on me too much... I had a little battle with the software and am helping a friend move now, but I'll get my organ up for sure later today

 

[Dogman]

but I'll get my organ up for sure later today

 

[cincy_kid]

LemonTree this is what you wrote as you started the Lemontree’s Colaboration Thread “If you want to sing it you can do it in any style you like. I just want to see where this goes” .

This is my take. There are may styles; country, rap, jazz, rock, and other types of performing styles, all have different ways of presenting their individual capabilities. Instead of having only one song, with everyone’s talent jammed into it like a toss salad, why not do several versions? That way each person is not required to fit into your one size fits all mode.

Cincy Kid, your performance is right on and needs no other voices to add any flavor. The statement adding your 2 cents about True reminds me of a quarterback telling another second string quarterback……..hey just let me be your guide in this game and your performance will be fine………just watch me. I understand your position here, you have been singled out as the front runner which is clearly evident by what is being said. So, how are you going to accept this position in the song without trying to find a way for the others to take part. It is sad that the words chosen come off as telling a performer (True) to redo their effort and maybe get a good verse or two that can be added, or just do some back vocals consisting of emotional melodies that might fit in here or there. I am pointing fingers here… Gorty said it too; Do as Lemon said: Use cincy's as a guide! You will do fine ..You can do it Mum....The trick being, is not to do too much...The old saying goes….Less is More !

We all have feeling in our lives and like to be complimented, appreciated and accepted. That is not always the case where talents are judged. Lemon, at least consider my suggested option of making several different vesions. You never know, you may really like the variety, and can enjoy your intended talent at mixing music rather than putting individual ability into one big pot.

Choctaw

Damn Choc, I certainly wasn't trying to be a quarterback telling a 2nd string to follow my lead. I meant it the same was as Lemon did, meaning that I listened to Lemon's original vocals where he said "Use this as a guide" and did exactly that. I came in singing in the right measure, paused where solos go, etc..So I was simply telling True to use my vocals as a guide of where to come in and where to end, nothing more.

Front runner? I didn't realize this was a competition or else I would have put my rally cap on As stated above, I thought it was a collaboration where we all got to participate in and mayeb have a bit of everyones flavor in the song or even like you suggested maybe multiple versions, who knows, just have fun in the name of music.

Again my comment to true, was kind of for true and for lemon. When I said alternating versus I meant maybe Lemon uses mine first, then trues, then both of us on the chorus, etc. Just mixing ideas for Lemon as well as insipration for true to retrack in the same timing as mine. I think true does have some emotional melodies, I thought that was a compliment. I hear sounds of Stevie Nicks and other great performers in her voice and was just pointing those out to her that I thought those vocals would add great depth to the song.

Anyways, I think you were out of line here Choc, and I apologize if any of what I said came off the wrong way True, I honestly meant nothing negative in my words.

Now on a positive note, lets get this hammond down snake ~~

 

[XLR]

This sounds good. Intense vocals and guitar lines – I listened to both True’s and Cincy’s.

I think it’d sound good with a little more kick and snare - with more body and less zing to the snare.

Tim

 

[Gorty]

Hey Lemon, just a quick update... hope you're not waiting on me too much... I had a little battle with the software and am helping a friend move now, but I'll get my organ up for sure later today

Hehehe....you said "organ"........!!!

 

[SnakeDog5050]

Hehehe....you said "organ"........!!!

Yep, I'm back and it's time to pull out my organ and get playin'

 

[Gorty]

Yep, I'm back and it's time to pull out my organ and get playin'