latin jazz funk is driving me nuts . . . .

[sweetnubs]

christ i've got to do fucking quica overdubs today. did you hear that, quica overdubs! you know that fish looking thingy they scrape in latin music. i know this fucker is going to spend three hourse perfecting his "fish" parts. aaaaaaah! latin jazz funk is the scourge of the earth. last three days: rythm section. pop and slap bass drives me nuts. today sax, trumpet, trombone, quica and guitar solo overdubs. tomorrow vocals. god help me!

 

[esactun]

It could be worse. Do they use those avocado and banana shaped Remo shakers?

Latin percussion makes my head spin. It can be incredible or it can be overwhelming.

 

[scottboyher]

Wrong business?

Nubby it sounds like you are in the wrong business. Maybe selling life insurance would be the job for you. You sure can bullshit with the best of them.

 

[JuSumPilgrim]

Re: Wrong business?

Nubby it sounds like you are in the wrong business. Maybe selling life insurance would be the job for you. You sure can bullshit with the best of them.

Basically.

Are you charging for this?

Mixing complex rhythm sections is among the most satisfying mixing experiences to be had.

Its important to understand time and syncopation. If youre adding reverb, dont put it on everything or things will get muddy fast. This is where you may start to appreciate having a versatile mic cabinet as mic and placement will allow for more organic sound than EQing everything to death. Having an idea of where each part will sit in the mix plays a big role in those decisions.

 

[knightfly]

"driving me nuts . . . . " It's obviously a short trip - don't be lazy, just walk...

 

[littledog]

christ i've got to do fucking quica overdubs today. did you hear that, quica overdubs! you know that fish looking thingy they scrape in latin music. i know this fucker is going to spend three hourse perfecting his "fish" parts. aaaaaaah! latin jazz funk is the scourge of the earth. last three days: rythm section. pop and slap bass drives me nuts. today sax, trumpet, trombone, quica and guitar solo overdubs. tomorrow vocals. god help me!

what a shame they picked you for an engineer - far better to have someone who loves the music record it. but, hey, i know how hard it is to turn down a project when your cupboard is bare...

but you might as well get a couple of things straight (oops! no offense!). the fish looking scraped thing is a GUIRO. the CUICA is a Brazilian instrument, also known as the TALKING DRUM.

i get a lot of work from brazilian and argentine musicians in the boston area, and unlike you i always look forward to it, as it is some of the most interesting and exciting music i ever get to do. (and i do a lot)

also, i have a guatemalan percussionist regularly on call to do percussion sweetening on a large percentage of the projects that come through here, regardless of style, and those sessions are usually the most fun part of the project.

oh well, to each his/her own.

 

[sweetnubs]

yeah your right it is the guiro. no wonder that dude was looking at me like i was an idiot. he spent a little over two hours doing guiro overdubs, who's the idiot? now don't get me wrong, i love latin-jazz. the operative word here was "latin jazz funk" which basically means cheesy pop and slap bass and the trap player has usually got those goofy wind chimes. (which was the case) i actually studied music performance in college and am a fairly decent jazz and classical player (although i don't get to play much anymore) so i appreciate the traditional indigenous music. i just don't dig jazz-funk and its hybrids. miles electric was about all i liked in that genre. shit, i got to see count basie and ella fitzgerald. props from nubs dawg. or is that dawgie-doo?

 

[littledog]

i actually studied music performance in college and am a fairly decent jazz and classical player (although i don't get to play much anymore) so i appreciate the traditional indigenous music.

what instrument, if you don't mind me asking?

i'm also old enough to have spent many a night in the clubs and concert halls hearing mingus, monk, ellington, rahsaan roland kirk, miles, pharoah sanders, cecil taylor, bill evans, dizzy, ornette, sonny rollins, etc. unfortunately i'm a little too young to have heard bird, and was a little too late getting into jazz to hear coltrane.

piano was my main axe, although unfortunately these days i play more keyboard gigs than the real thing. that new yamaha s-90 isn't too bad though for fake piano.

 

[Light]

Dude, that's NOTHING.

I did lights for a Tito Puente tribute (and this was before he even DIED). It was done by a bunch of Latin-American students, and though I reject most stereotypes, these guys had NO sense of punctuality. They where about 45 minutes late going on stage. Now, these where students, and this was a school setting, so we would always let them have their allotted amount of time (never mind the overtime, heh heh). However, these guys abused that by more than a bit. I don't remember how much over time they went, but half an hour after they where supposed to be done, they where half way done with there set list. That was when I turned on EVERY light on the stage (180k onstage plus another 40k or so of front light). This, unfortunately, did NOT discourage them. I know they played at least another 45 minutes.

I feel your pain.

Don't get me wrong, I love great Latin music, but these guys were students, and it was NOT worth listening to for two plus hours.

What's up, your last couple posts have been almost good? You sick or something.

Light

"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi

 

[sweetnubs]

oh yeah what is wrong with me? i may be sick, but definately not sick of your momma.

 

[Light]

oh yeah what is wrong with me? i may be sick, but definately not sick of your momma.

If you’re not careful this forum could become like Mixerman's forum, with you as a sort of combination of Jack Ortman and Sliperman. And Boray and Blue Bear as Loudist and Studiojimi.

Just kidding. Kind of.

Light

"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi

 

[docrogers]

I'm with you Littledog! Brazilian jazz has some of the "richest" guitar chording around and the syncopated rhythms and upbeat percussion make for some pretty exciting and potentially intricate music.