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Not sure which forum to ask this in so that means it's a newbie question -- and I sure am!!

Recently got up and running with new Aduiophile 24/96 soundcard. (With kind help of forum member)

Here is my question:

I'm going into the card through a little Beringher mixer. Then out from the L/R outs of the card to a y cord and have been monitoring that way through headphones. (The little mixer does not have the ability to go back through it without creating a loop)

Now I've bought a set of monitors and going from the L/R out of the card to the monitors.

Here's my question: Now how can I use headphones? For instance If I want to turn down the monitors and monitor just through headphones like when singing a track. (Again can't go back through the little mixer.)

I can get a full refund on the little mixer. Really don't need but one Mic input, phantom power and then imput for my J-station. So I really don't need the extra inputs of a larger mixer. Would I be better off to go in through something like an audio buddy, or art tube? (Why spend extra money for a mixer with inputs and channels I don't need?)

Is there a inexpensive way to come out of the card to the monitors and still monitor through headphones and turn off monitors when needed? (Is there a such thing as a junction box with a headphone input that I could route through on the way to the monitors?)

Any help and suggestion are really appreciated. (I'm just about at my spending limit--Mama's gettin suspicisious)
 
Glad to see that members help each other around here....as a Newbie, Im glad to hear that......:)

While you had to pull the Behringer out of the loop to solve the immediate problem, the HAS to be a way to get it back in for monitoring purposes.....

what monitors did you get?......
 
I got the M-Delta Studiohile (got them from guitar center with the provsion I can take them back in 30 days and trade up if I want to) I know the real experts hear might blast them but for the price -- I'm having a blast. It's such and improvement over mixing with headphones. Listened to some others but to see a real difference It would take more money that I have to spend right now.

Concerning the little mixer -- I spent weeks trying to get it to work with all kinds of advice before it was discovered you simply cannot come out of the card and back through it without creating a loop. (Don't even want to go there again) I guess I could go through it to the monitors but I still have to have a way to go in -- with phatom power! Aslo don't like the way it colors the sound that's one reason I was thinking of the Audio Buddy.
 
I got the M-Delta Studiohile (got them from guitar center with the provsion I can take them back in 30 days and trade up if I want to) I know the real experts hear might blast them but for the price -- I'm having a blast. It's such and improvement over mixing with headphones. Listened to some others but to see a real difference It would take more money that I have to spend right now.

Concerning the little mixer -- I spent weeks trying to get it to work with all kinds of advice before it was discovered you simply cannot come out of the card and back through it without creating a loop. (Don't even want to go there again) I guess I could go through it to the monitors but I still have to have a way to go in -- with phatom power! Aslo don't like the way it colors the sound that's one reason I was thinking of the Audio Buddy.
 
Ok i see you have the studiophiles.....

I would try to go back the old way and see if you cant get the routing problem solved......

ok, say you are sending whatever you are recording to channel 1.....is there any way to send JUST that track to the Audiophile without going thru the main outs (bus,aux???)....then you could go out of the main outs into the Studiophiles and use your headphones thru the headphone out.....of course your Audiophiles outputs will go back to the Behringer just make sure you dont send those channels to the bus,aux channel that you are sending to the Audiophile.....

this is all a theory but let me know if it works......
 
ooops...you got that post in before me.....

you may want a better preamp (Audio Buddy) but if you can get that routing problem fixed it would really help.....you could always use the Delta Control panel to adjust the volume of your monitors but if you want to use monitors and headphones, that lil Behringer would really help.....
 
Thanks for the interest Dirge,

But belive me it won't work -- In fact I had to prove it to the guys at the Guitar center. Only one of about 5 guys knew from the start it wouldn't work.

After I bought the new soundcard I struggled for over a month with all kinds of advice, before I discoved it can't be done with this mixer.

That's why I went to the Y cord out from the card to monitor from the headphones.

So again don't want to buy a lager mixer with more inputs that I don't need if there is a better way.

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were you routing the track you were recording thru the auxillary channel?....and bringing the output of the audiophile back to the mixer and NOT sending those through the auxillary....and then Having the Auxillary send going into the Audiophile inputs....if you havent tried this, humor me and and try...pleeze.....
 
O.K -- So then Keep the little mixer.

Don't use it at all to to into the card.

Go with the audio buddy for that.

Then come from the L/R out of the card into a channel of the mixer then out to the monitors.

Then I Could shut off the monitors when just using the headphones.

Right?

However since I can control the volume to the moniors a number of ways (Delta control panel, -- the volume controls on the monitors.)
Is there a cheaper way to do it and get the money back for the mixer? --
 
in my last post i was talking about going back to square one and using the mixer.....input whatever you are recording into channel 1......send that channel to the auxillary.....go out of the auxillary send into the audiophile.....come out of the audiophile back into the behringer.....make sure the only channel you have going into the auxillary is the source you are recording......go out of the main outs into your monitors and plug your headphones into the headphone input.....have you tried it this way.....

i hate to sound so adamant about trying this but i think to monitor with monitors and headphones (with or without the audio buddy) you will need the Behringer......

if you do get the audio buddy it will be as simple as running the Audiophiles outs into the inputs of the Behringer and the outputs of the Behringer to the monitors with your headphones into the headphone input.......

have patience with me...im a newbie.....
 
Sorry dirge bad post that is not the web site --

You lost me on "sent that channel to the Aux"

How do I do that?

Belive me I'm a more of a newbie that you!

Do you understand that this is the bottom of the line mixer from Behringer? it is the Eurorack 602A --

There is just one 1/4 inch jack for aux send -- how do I go into the card from there?

I'm willing to listen --

But I think I am going with the audio buddy anyway.
 
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ok, check attachment......

A - plug mic in

go out of B into 1 of the RCA's of the Audiophile......

go out of the Audiophile into C and D which is the 3/4 input....if you get any bleed you can also try 5/6......

go from E and F (main outs) to your Studiophiles.....

of course headphones go into K

G H I and J are your effect sends and only the track you are recording on should be turned up....all others should be turned all the way down.....
 
O.K. you've got my curiosity up --
Try my e-mail with the attacment
Want to see what A-B-etc. is???
 
Im too stupid for attachments...im too stupid for email....i would have picked the name Villiage Idiot, but it was taken......

basically, plug whatever you are recording into channel one.....turn the aux fader on channel one all the way up.......adjust levels as needed.....go from the Aux send to one of the RCA inputs of the Audiophile....go from the output of the Audiophiles into the Line In 3/4 or 5/6.......go from the Main Outs to the Studiophiles and from the Phones jack to your headphones......

I had a pic of the Behringer mixer with all the points labeled but oh well, i explained it as best as i can...just remember that all aux faders besides channel one should be turned all the way down....this way, since you are going from the Aux Out instead of the Main outs, the only thing that should get recorded is whatever channel has the aux pan turned up, in this case, channel 1......
 
UHHHH!!
O.K. den -- Now I'm confused about more that my stinking mixer--
anyway --

If I go from the aux send to one of the inputs on the audiophile, --- will i be able to record stereo?
 
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