laptops & soundcards

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Hi all,
going to buy a laptop, I got quite annoyed about their audio specs, say: "full-duplex audio SB/AC97 compatible" or something similar that doesn't state they have a *real* soundcard. So, anybody knows about a good laptop with a real audio card, *not* a coded?
I'll also appreciate any tip about USB/firewire solutions.
Thanx,
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one thing laptops are never too hot on are sound/video cards (well..video cards untill recently, they are now using better ones..but that doesn't help you much)..the only external solution the I personally know of is the creative sound blaster extigy...It is an external usb solution and claims to record at 24-bit/96khz, but the internal counterpart (the audigy) makes the same claim but I have heard it immediately scales down to 16-bit. You can look it up on creative's website, but you'd probably want a less biased opinion of it, which can be found here:

http://www6.tomshardware.com/video/02q2/020405/

hope this helps

dlv
 
Thanks, muskgrave.
It seems clear that the external solution is the best suited to laptops. I read the Extigy review that confirms what I think about SB products: they're good at gaming but aren't enough serious for [semi-]professional audio works (see the boasted but fake 24/96 spec). Echo's stuff is a good candidate though a bit expensive.

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$650-$1200 seems to be the range for the various firewire or cardbus options (some exceptions either way). The category is fairly new, and now you add usb 2.0 (I am not aware of any audio i/o cards with this yet), and you see this as an emerging areas.

Your needs/software will vary the decision. The choices I am (have) considering(ed) are:

All in one systems
-- In general have nixed these b/c you usually lose out on some features, like # of i/o, midi, quality of components, and the inability to insert a compressor or brick wall limiter between pre and i/o
--Echo Mona - was strongly looking at Mona until midi and compressor became a need for me -- also, only 4 in's w/ no expandability. Pre's are supposedly good, though not great on DI guitar
--Motu 828 or 896: 828 is not 96k, no midi, supposedly not great pc or customer support. 896 - expensive, big, supposedly many of the same 828 components, which aren't the greatest
--Focusrite OctoPre -- this is interesting, has compressor on each track, 8 pres, can do 96k through adat expansion board. Really seems like an add on, not replacement for an i/o card.
--Presonus Firestation -- very interesting, not sure when it will be out, firewire (mlan) based
--Metric Halo mobile i/o - looks very cool, BUT no PC support today - site says coming soon, when emailed, response was "I don't know, maybe a few months" - not encouraging. Also, upper end of price range, if not beyond
--Crest audio - don't have alot of info but pricey

Strictly i/o
--Echo Audio: Layla still under serious consideration
--RME HDSP: Was on a waiting list 8 months ago for it, but then gave up. If available will likely be a strong contender. Small, lots of i/o, expandable, 96k adat, midi, some dsp for low latency monitoring. I use Sonar so no WDM initially crossed it off the list, but recent review shows very favorable latency (see cakewalknet.com).



None are pefect for me but it is probably down to the layla for HDSP. Ideally this is what I would want:
--Firewire or usb 2.0 based - no need to buy/install separate pci and pcmcia
--6-8 i/o's, though expandable (linking multiple units)
--96k adat
--2 defeatable on-board preamps with brick wall limiter (for simple stereo all in one recording - not needing additional pre's/comp)
--midi
--metering and headphone on breakout box
--1/2 to 1 rack space
--software upgradable
--giga and wdm support
--ability to run w/o being plugged in, or at least alternative portable options (battery, car lighter etc.)

jeez, now I am getting myself thinking that this really exists. A guy can dream I guess. :rolleyes:
 
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RME HDSP Cardbus card. They are available now and I have one. It is great because I can use the same rack of gear on the road with my Dell Insperion 8100 as I can with my studio DAW.
 
Thanx all!
Now I've got a quite broad overview: I've only to choose the most suited solution...

^s
 
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