KRK rockit 5 vs ???

[sk8a123]

I apologize for bringing this thread back up but my noobness tends to make me ask more questions. So so far I'm considering the krk rockit 5's, or I'm going to save up for much better ones. But I got this Once in a lifetime deal on "event 20 20". I read up on these but I thought I'd ask you guys

 

[PDP]

M-Audio BX5a vs the KRK rockit 5. and am not sure which one to get.

I think the M-audio's port out the back, I think the KRKs (front bass port) is better. You need space (10-12") between the BX5 and the back wall.

 

[sk8a123]

I think the M-audio's port out the back, I think the KRKs (front bass port) is better. You need space (10-12") between the BX5 and the back wall.

oh ok. Do you know anything about " event 20 20" they are kind of hard to find

 

[kcearl]

i tried a pair of bi-amped Event 20/20s just recently..I liked them, 8" woofers as well which was what i was looking for

I went with the krk's because they were new, but these were my other choice..i just wasnt sure about buying used that all

 

[sk8a123]

i tried a pair of bi-amped Event 20/20s just recently..I liked them, 8" woofers as well which was what i was looking for

I went with the krk's because they were new, but these were my other choice..i just wasnt sure about buying used that all

Where did you try it? i looked at some of my local music store sites, and they didn't have the 20 20

 

[sk8a123]

oh yea, also, kcearl, why in the world is this so cheap? http://www.guitarcenter.com/-i1153188.gc

 

[kcearl]

its a sale and there's no amp...you'd still have to fork out for an amp on top of the monitors price, still thats cheaper than ive seen some 20/20's selling used


Id have a look on fleabay and see if you could pick up a crown 75 amp for a decent price...then they might be worth a punt

 

[sk8a123]

Aww man, I gotta get an amp . This is what I get for being cheap

 

[kcearl]

yeah any that say passive means there's no built in amp


ive seen crowns go for around the $100 mark...so it might still be well within budget..dunno

 

[PDP]

YES BRO, if you really like the sound that might be a deal. You can get small crown amps on Ebay theres always some being sold from 45watts a side to 75 a side. Nothing wrong with that setup at all. 45watts crown power is plenty for those.

 

[sk8a123]

I got it now. Thx

 

[SouthSIDE Glen]

I apologize for bringing this thread back up but my noobness tends to make me ask more questions. So so far I'm considering the krk rockit 5's, or I'm going to save up for much better ones. But I got this Once in a lifetime deal on "event 20 20". I read up on these but I thought I'd ask you guys

You need to listen to these loudspeakers for yourself and decide, because what one guy likes another does not.

What I can tell you is that we have a pair of Event 20/20s in the CR at Product Recording (along with a pair of JBL 4411s, but that's another story). What I can tell you is that the Events sound nothing like my Mackies; they have nowhere near the extended range on the top end or the bottom end that the Mackies do, and tend to be much more more midrangey. Some people prefer that kind of sound; others don't. Whether you prefer it or not, only you can decide.

I can't speak directly to the Rockit 5's, but I can say that IMHO, the KRK 8s are much closer in sound to the Mackies than to the Events. I can only guess, but I'd guess that the main difference with the 5s will be a sloppier and less extended low end. But I have no idea how the high end would compare.

Get yourself down to a showroom and start listening. Picking loudspeakers is like picking shoes. What's comfortable on one guy's foot is not necessarily what even fits on the next guy's foot. You gotta try therm on for yourself.

G.

 

[miroslav]

Get yourself down to a showroom and start listening. Picking loudspeakers is like picking shoes. What's comfortable on one guy's foot is not necessarily what even fits on the next guy's foot. You gotta try them on for yourself.

Yeah...you have to try them out...preferably in your own studio space.

That's how I ended up with the Mackie 824 monitors. I spent about an hour or two auditioning 5 sets of monitors (can't remember all the model numbers, but they were all comparable)...Yamaha, JBL, Event, Tannoy, KRK and the Mackies.
The Mackies were the clear winners...but just to be sure, I asked the sales rep if I could buy them and then get a couple of days to demo in my studio with the understanding that I could return them for something else if they didn't sound as good in my studio.
He agreed...and the Mackies actually sounded even better in my studio than they did at the store.

 

[TeyshaBlue]

Speakers that are actually designed to be less accurate with shorter throws and narrow dispersion along with a limited frequency response?

Nearfields were never made to sound "good" -- They were made to be reasonably consistent under a wide variety of circumstances (i.e., bad or poorly designed and treated spaces). Sure, some of them certainly cross over into the "Wow, those actually sound pretty nice" category (many Dynaudio, ADAM, Genelec, etc.). But I'd like to throw most of them into a tire fire and roast marshmallows over the rising ashes.

But again - I'm not arguing against the OP getting nearfields - I'm arguing against getting the smallest, cheapest speakers he can. That one mistake (and I've seen that mistake made dozens if not hundreds of times) could set him back far more than simply a dollar figure.

I know you asked this of John specifically, but I'd love to chime in with my own anecdote on this subject.

I've been using my nearfields (HR 824s) for some 11 years, and I love them. But my first generation of home studio before that - inferior in so many ways that I can't count them - I had a set of three way room monitors set off the far wall across the room from the mix position. I also had a friend who has a mixing setup in a spare bedroom with two different sets of two way far fields.

I would frankly now give my nearfelds away for either set up - hands down, no question. My current room situation does not allow it - yet; otherwise I'd make the retro change in a heartbeat. I'm chomping at the bit for the opportunity to set up a farfield CR room though.

If you've never mixed in a farfield situation, it's hard to explain; but for me there's a luciousness, a luxuriousness, a natural comfort in mixing in a far field that I've never been able to get in any of the nearfield situations I've worked with. Somehow, expanding the stereophonic image to a closer to more real-life size out in front of me instead of having everything right in my face just makes a huge difference (for me anyway).

G.

Thanks for your thoughts, guys. In a way, it sorta confirms some notions I've had rolling around in the back of my noggin for awhile. Glenn, I used to own a pair of EV MS802 which I used in more of a mid-field configuration. While I found the bottom end to be pretty hyped on these (and my room at the time was pretty well behaved), I really enjoyed mixing with the added buffer of another 4 ft or so. Some projects really benefited from this, others, not so much. But I don't have that flexibility in my current set up..having had the 802's stolen years ago. I might explore that option again having, for years, submitted to the conventional wisdom of near field monitoring.
Massive...I agree on your characterization of near fields..and I don't think I'd ever buy a pair because they "sound good". I've got a ton of consumer monitoring set ups (I'm a speaker slut) from an oddball pair of Bertagni SM100's, to a pair of B&W CM1, with everything in between from vintage Bose to Jamo. I bought the Rokits because I heard detail I was missing in my Tannoy PBM 6.5's which is much the same reason why I picked up a pair of Adam A7's. My philosophy has been to pick the pair of monitors that I can afford that are an improvement over what I've been using. I'll likely continue to listen to and evaluate monitors...it's doubtful the A7's will be the last pair I buy regardless of how much I like them today (although, they do seem a hair brittle ).

 

[SouthSIDE Glen]

I used to own a pair of EV MS802 which I used in more of a mid-field configuration. While I found the bottom end to be pretty hyped on these (and my room at the time was pretty well behaved), I really enjoyed mixing with the added buffer of another 4 ft or so. Some projects really benefited from this, others, not so much.

I don't know that I can say that for me that I can actually make better mixes one way or another, it really all just depends upon whether the particular loudspeaker - near field or room array or anything in-between - gives me what I need to make a good mix.

But all that being equal, there's just something about having the sound coming from across the room and filling the room that just feels better than having a couple of monitors sitting on an overbridge a few feet from my face. Moving from even the nicest pair of nearfields to a good pair of room monitors is kind of like taking the condom off .

G.

 

[kcearl]

You need to listen to these loudspeakers for yourself and decide, because what one guy likes another does not.

What I can tell you is that we have a pair of Event 20/20s in the CR at Product Recording (along with a pair of JBL 4411s, but that's another story). What I can tell you is that the Events sound nothing like my Mackies; they have nowhere near the extended range on the top end or the bottom end that the Mackies do, and tend to be much more more midrangey. Some people prefer that kind of sound; others don't. Whether you prefer it or not, only you can decide.

I can't speak directly to the Rockit 5's, but I can say that IMHO, the KRK 8s are much closer in sound to the Mackies than to the Events. I can only guess, but I'd guess that the main difference with the 5s will be a sloppier and less extended low end. But I have no idea how the high end would compare.

Get yourself down to a showroom and start listening. Picking loudspeakers is like picking shoes. What's comfortable on one guy's foot is not necessarily what even fits on the next guy's foot. You gotta try therm on for yourself.

G.

yeah i didn't think they sounded better than the RP8's, I did think they had a better bass response than the rp5's and all in all they were $200 cheaper than the rp8s...which could be a factor

couldn't check them side by side...even in a music orientated city like San Diego I couldn't find somewhere to listen to both together let alone in a studio space