Kick drum: triggering? samples? drumagog?

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Tim Brown said:
I don't know, since I don't record on a PC.

That's why I was suggesting trying to record a trigger's audio spike on an audio track, and then seeing if you could use Drumagog to replace the audio spike.
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Have you actually done that. I am either going to buy a really cheap mic to basically act like a trigger or whatever or plug a trigger straight in if your method works. Whatever is better and cheaper.
 
I am new to plugins. (I have always used the ones that I already have in my software) I am running acid pro 4. What is the best way to use this program?
 
patlang12 said:
Have you actually done that. I am either going to buy a really cheap mic to basically act like a trigger or whatever or plug a trigger straight in if your method works. Whatever is better and cheaper.
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No, I haven't done it, but I have recorded an audio spike from a trigger before.

I've used it both as a "click" on the kick drum, and I've used it as extra white noise for the snare.

A pieze element (which is a speaker) will be microphonic once it is "actived" (i.e., the head it's touching is struck) but the frequency range is NASTY midrange.

So like I said, it will allow you to record an audio spike, and since Drumagogue simply replaces the original sound with a sample - you should be able to do this and eliminate the need of an actual kick drum mic.

A Cheap mic on the other hand, will just do what a regular mic does.

I was just thinking that for the price of a pair of Kick mic's, you could probably buy the full Drumagogue and a pair of ddrum triggers.


Tim
 
Tim Brown said:
No, I haven't done it, but I have recorded an audio spike from a trigger before.

I've used it both as a "click" on the kick drum, and I've used it as extra white noise for the snare.

A pieze element (which is a speaker) will be microphonic once it is "actived" (i.e., the head it's touching is struck) but the frequency range is NASTY midrange.

So like I said, it will allow you to record an audio spike, and since Drumagogue simply replaces the original sound with a sample - you should be able to do this and eliminate the need of an actual kick drum mic.

A Cheap mic on the other hand, will just do what a regular mic does.

I was just thinking that for the price of a pair of Kick mic's, you could probably buy the full Drumagogue and a pair of ddrum triggers.


Tim
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Well because I am on a tight budget (who isn't?:D) I would just get a cheap trigger and use that free software. I have a sample cd with some drum sounds and I think there are some that I like. I don't need anything great as long as it does that job, which I think that free stuff. So if I understand you correctly you just plug the trigger straigt in and then it will make an audio spike? Also like I asked before what should I use that software in. Can I use it in acid? How can I just open it? Thanks a lot!
 
the one I found: http://www.stormrecordingstudio.co.uk/VST.htm actually changes the wav after the fact (you only need to record a kick drum poorly, then probably gate it so there's not much bleed from other instruments, then just set the threshhold and have at it), it's a VST plugin and can be used with acid.
 
grn said:
the one I found: http://www.stormrecordingstudio.co.uk/VST.htm actually changes the wav after the fact (you only need to record a kick drum poorly, then probably gate it so there's not much bleed from other instruments, then just set the threshhold and have at it), it's a VST plugin and can be used with acid.
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yeah I understand all of that except how to use VST plugins. I guess I will have to go find the manual unless somebody wants to unlighten me! :D
 
even with drumagog and then some ddrum triggers, you still need good samples...so thats another £200 which is more than a kick mic alone.
 
drummerdude666 said:
even with drumagog and then some ddrum triggers, you still need good samples...so thats another £200 which is more than a kick mic alone.
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I have some good samples...
I can't find my manual for acid 4 though. :(
 
drummerdude666 said:
even with drumagog and then some ddrum triggers, you still need good samples...so thats another £200 which is more than a kick mic alone.
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I thought it said Drumagog came with samples. All I've heard is how great it is, but if it comes with crappy samples it's probably not worth it.



Tim
 
Tim Brown said:
I thought it said Drumagog came with samples. All I've heard is how great it is, but if it comes with crappy samples it's probably not worth it.



Tim
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I think it's the demo that is limited to a few not so great samples.
 
drummerdude666 said:
That second link works brilliantly!!!!!! That's all I need! Thankyou very very much.

Now all i need is nice kick samples, a googling i must go. :rolleyes:
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I tried this and it does work pretty good. It worked great on kick drum but I had a problem with the snare. I think if I gate it to get rid of the hi hat bleed that might help but using it on the kick worked perfectly.

Now I must find some good free samples as well.
 
Tim Brown said:
I thought it said Drumagog came with samples. All I've heard is how great it is, but if it comes with crappy samples it's probably not worth it.



Tim
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Drumagog does not come with crappy samples. In fact it comes with over 200 sample files including 7 toms from a mid 80's Ludwig maple set and a crap load of kicks and snares.
 
I still can't get the plugin to work. I can't find the VSTplugin folder.
 
EdWonbass said:
I tried this and it does work pretty good. It worked great on kick drum but I had a problem with the snare. I think if I gate it to get rid of the hi hat bleed that might help but using it on the kick worked perfectly.

Now I must find some good free samples as well.
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Go to the last tab and set it for advanced at the top of the page. This may help. Also, go into visual mode and adjust the threshold so the hi-hat doesn't trigger. If you play with the filters on the first page, you might have better luck making it ignore the hi-hat. How much bleed do you have?

Here are a couple gog files
www.farviewrecording.com/special/bigkik3.gog
www.farviewrecording.com/special/flot65.gog
www.farviewrecording.com/special/PLudwigKick1.gog
 
Farview said:
Go to the last tab and set it for advanced at the top of the page. This may help. Also, go into visual mode and adjust the threshold so the hi-hat doesn't trigger. If you play with the filters on the first page, you might have better luck making it ignore the hi-hat. How much bleed do you have?

Here are a couple gog files
www.farviewrecording.com/special/bigkik3.gog
www.farviewrecording.com/special/flot65.gog
www.farviewrecording.com/special/PLudwigKick1.gog
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I don't think he was using drumagog. I think most the people in this thread are talking about using a simplier free thing.
 
can someone please expain to me how Drumagog works? like what do i need and step by step instruction would help..thanks!!!
 
dyingserenity said:
can someone please expain to me how Drumagog works? like what do i need and step by step instruction would help..thanks!!!
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First, you record the drums. 1 mic per drum. Once the drums are recorded, you insert drumagog on each drum track that you would like to replace. Pick the sample that you want to use, and adjust the threshold and sensitivity. Press play. That's it.
 
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