Kick Drum Head - Off or On ?

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Do you leave your front kick drum head while playing/recording?

  • On

    Votes: 22 47.8%
  • Off

    Votes: 24 52.2%

  • Total voters
    46
  • Poll closed .
If you want a "flab" sound similar to Pantera or New Found Glory, you gotta keep that resonant head on and have it looser than yo mama!
 
Live - I keep the head on with a hole for the mic.

Record - I normally keep the head off. Even though I prefer the extra resonance, having the head off gives the engineer more control and allows for easier mic placement.
 
my favorite drum manufacturers make kick drums that have resonant head lugs, and resonant heads. Plus i'm no fan of the 80's, so I chose resonant head on. Resonant is the key word.
 
On...without the resonant head you lose all definition to the sound.
 
Blackburn said:
On...without the resonant head you lose all definition to the sound.

Malarkey!!! (a polite was of saying BULLSHIT!!!)

Whether to keep the front head on or off really depends upon the music and production goal.

If you are going to have a very sparce, few tracks mix, and the kick needs to fill a lot of space in the "time line" of the song, the front head on would be best.

If you are going to have a dense mix, with a lot of busy parts, and the kick just needs a good little click and some punch, but little time in the "time line", head off seems to work better.

If I am tracking a rock, blues, funk, etc...type of band, I just start off by taking it off IF I can convince the drummer that it is the right thing to do. I have been burned too many times with relenting to them and keeping it on. In most cases, I end up triggering another sound to make the mix work!!!

I almost NEVER need to trigger another sound with the front kick head off.

YMMV, but if it does, you probably need a tune up....:)

Ed
 
Uladine said:
I like leaving the head on because you can add resonance by moving the mic certain ways. I've read that if you go without a front head for too long the weight of you toms (if mounted on the kick) will actually warp the shell a bit. Ever since I heard that, wether it was true or not, I've always been careful about removing the front head for longer than a recording session.

Put the lug ring back on without the skins....

I miss having drums..sniff :0(


Peace,
Dennis
 
I have it on in my studio kit.

Actually, I do not even have a hole in in it. I have inverted a short mic stand upside down from the tom mounts and encased an EV RE27 inside the drum. I had to put pads inside the drum to reduce the boominess of the drum. The mic cable runs through the mic stand. I drilled hole in the side of the stand so the cable could be connected to the mic (I had to take the XLR connector of the mic cable to feed it through the drilled hole, then put it back on.) This really helped my save space in an already tight booth.
 
kick drum ideas

I get great results with the head off.
Then the mic is inside the front of the drum, and off center.
Put a pillow inside near the back skin.
*Sounds better than the big boys.....

My frequency settings for fine tunning the recording:

4 to 8 K - controls the slap (attack)
45 to 50 Hz - gives you low end fullness and air - the feel.
60 to 80 Hz - low end fullness

** Don't use any effects on the kick

Chuck:D
 
i've found a nice sound by finger-tightening the front lugs, just enough so the front head isn;t warped anywhere, so it;s flat near every lug. i got a hand towel and cut it down the middle the long way. it;s about 13 inches long. and i rolled both halves up and layed them against the edge of both heads, and taped them, about an inch from the ends of the towel, up against the heads. just enough so it holds it against the head, not tight. I've found thats the best way of dampening without losing sound. But, i still can;t tell if thats a "good" kick sound. it might sound like living shit, i wouldn;t know.
i'm going to get some clips and stuff to show you how my kit sounds, to ask you all about. i will expect plenty of constructive critisism!!!!!
and i find that with toms, the bottom head is so crucial to getting a good tuning out of em, i don;t know how anybody ever played without em.
 
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