Change of POETS
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JadionMusic said:
I'm a white man, been doing Hip-Hop for 9 years now.
I read your posts, and I'd label you as much a racist as anyone.
He has every right to be offended whe you say things like that...
I'm a white man, been doing Hip-Hop for 9 years now.
I read your posts, and I'd label you as much a racist as anyone.
He has every right to be offended whe you say things like that...
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Kevlar
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Damn You People?
Then you go an Quote Ross Perot to try and hash it out?
That's crazy to me. I wasn't going to post because i hate being negative but check it...I TAKE offense to the word you wrote not once but twice in your post...Not because i'm black or wanna be black..but i feel that people like yourself (Jadion) are the reason racism comes into play. IF you bring shit up you better be ready to back up your statement. I know this is the web and there are alot of "web bangers" out there but come on seriously you think by statements like
"a reference to ALL PEOPLE who judge others through the eyes of JEALOUSY and race. God damn!! Why are black people so sensitive to EVERYTHING you say? You proved my point EXACTLY. Blacks are ALWAYS looking for the underlying RACISM that ISN'T THERE!!!!!! "
that is going to make the situation you created better? You are the reason why black people get so pissed off. you are the reason why people take offense. ...you are also the reason why when i go out to eat with my girl i get stares. Don't give me that
"don't blame me " bullshit You know what you are and i bet now your gonna say something completly racist like "yo i got like tuns of black friends" if they are your friends you wouldn't have to discribe them with a color. The only reason i responded to this is because it pisses me off when people say something and then try to cover shit up . You said some harsh shit if i we're you i would change my s/n, look in the mirror, and say why the fuck did i say those things?. IF you really don't see what you said as being racist then thats fine. It will def come back to haunt you in the long run.
Thats All
Peace Love Respect
Ya Boy Kevlar
Then you go an Quote Ross Perot to try and hash it out?
That's crazy to me. I wasn't going to post because i hate being negative but check it...I TAKE offense to the word you wrote not once but twice in your post...Not because i'm black or wanna be black..but i feel that people like yourself (Jadion) are the reason racism comes into play. IF you bring shit up you better be ready to back up your statement. I know this is the web and there are alot of "web bangers" out there but come on seriously you think by statements like
"a reference to ALL PEOPLE who judge others through the eyes of JEALOUSY and race. God damn!! Why are black people so sensitive to EVERYTHING you say? You proved my point EXACTLY. Blacks are ALWAYS looking for the underlying RACISM that ISN'T THERE!!!!!! "
that is going to make the situation you created better? You are the reason why black people get so pissed off. you are the reason why people take offense. ...you are also the reason why when i go out to eat with my girl i get stares. Don't give me that
"don't blame me " bullshit You know what you are and i bet now your gonna say something completly racist like "yo i got like tuns of black friends" if they are your friends you wouldn't have to discribe them with a color. The only reason i responded to this is because it pisses me off when people say something and then try to cover shit up . You said some harsh shit if i we're you i would change my s/n, look in the mirror, and say why the fuck did i say those things?. IF you really don't see what you said as being racist then thats fine. It will def come back to haunt you in the long run.
Thats All
Peace Love Respect
Ya Boy Kevlar
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musac
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I GIVE A FUCC WUT U LABLE J.T.'S MUSIC.
he works hard at what he does and as far as i'm concern'd is as talented as any 1 else in the game right now.
he might be average at whatever but hes mastered his shit
id rather manage him than myself and most motha fuccs i can think of.
jadion,thats as far as our opinions coincide.we can feel sensitive towards circumstances that were created from the harsh reality that we were forced into. the playin fields a little more levle now than it was granted ,but u cant take away rape seperation from fathers etc.etc.,(only a man can raise a man)
i dont need a soap box u cant learn any way
your the diff between stupid and ign.
u rely on wit thats given to the ave. white kid and not the black through a 1 dimensional thing called education .
we get a month of history yet were here as long as u.
let go of the cocky shit its a bad look for u
fuck u fuck bill
i understand your thoughts ,thats your right
i understand your words that comes with your freedom , the same freedom that was granted to us way after u.
use your time cryin over your jeoulosy about us lookin into how shit really went down
we made a way out of none,period
i know a man that served 10 years for bein drunk and killing someone while driving
our presidents wife served no time doing the same thing and running after the incedent
i know a man serving life for killng a man
i know a president who runs a country after cheating an election process and killed sevral innocent men (proven though d.n.a)while an elected official of texas
i'm sensitive
u fuccin right
he works hard at what he does and as far as i'm concern'd is as talented as any 1 else in the game right now.
he might be average at whatever but hes mastered his shit
id rather manage him than myself and most motha fuccs i can think of.
jadion,thats as far as our opinions coincide.we can feel sensitive towards circumstances that were created from the harsh reality that we were forced into. the playin fields a little more levle now than it was granted ,but u cant take away rape seperation from fathers etc.etc.,(only a man can raise a man)
i dont need a soap box u cant learn any way
your the diff between stupid and ign.
u rely on wit thats given to the ave. white kid and not the black through a 1 dimensional thing called education .
we get a month of history yet were here as long as u.
let go of the cocky shit its a bad look for u
fuck u fuck bill
i understand your thoughts ,thats your right
i understand your words that comes with your freedom , the same freedom that was granted to us way after u.
use your time cryin over your jeoulosy about us lookin into how shit really went down
we made a way out of none,period
i know a man that served 10 years for bein drunk and killing someone while driving
our presidents wife served no time doing the same thing and running after the incedent
i know a man serving life for killng a man
i know a president who runs a country after cheating an election process and killed sevral innocent men (proven though d.n.a)while an elected official of texas
i'm sensitive
u fuccin right
Trumpspade
I'M BLESSED.......
I don't dislike JT, I actually think he has talent...... BUT, history tells us alot of what to look out for. Remember that guy named ummmmm "ELVIS"? He stole everything that made him famous from his songs to his style of singing. The only thing that he didn't steal was his acceptable pale skin and his Fat Ass gut.
So what, it was cool to steal and imitate something that never belonged to you and be called "The King"? There were many before Elvis, but the younger white people who loved that style of music couldn't bring it home. So what did they do? The created a new style of Music called ROCK & ROLL, had an acceptable icon to perform, NOW they were able to bring it in the forefront and classify him the KING... BULLS**t... That's what I'm screaming!
By the way, what does baseball have to do with anything? We're domintaing Sports as a whole partner.
One love
Trizza
So what, it was cool to steal and imitate something that never belonged to you and be called "The King"? There were many before Elvis, but the younger white people who loved that style of music couldn't bring it home. So what did they do? The created a new style of Music called ROCK & ROLL, had an acceptable icon to perform, NOW they were able to bring it in the forefront and classify him the KING... BULLS**t... That's what I'm screaming!
By the way, what does baseball have to do with anything? We're domintaing Sports as a whole partner.
One love
Trizza
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musac
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btw 50 is a hope to what we are at the lowest common denominater
igive a fucc what he did ' ichop it up 2 go marketing.as was said earlier believabilaty makes for the best records his bio makes him believable. i've been shot so has my brother to me that makes me a victom of a fucced up situation.
now my uncle was a bitch his whole life been shot more than n/e 1 i know personally hes a cracchead and fucced up but wit a good pr dept. and some practice he could sell how much awww i dont know but hed at least have a good month.
as musicians we are story tellers true or false either way we whoever is believed and related to or looked up to will have a solid base
i love 50 cuz him makin it says fucc u
and ten racist that look like u
when u come from nuthin and u see someone from a situuation simular to yours or worse make it, it gives u hope, HOPE
thats how the story robin hood came 2 be hope
i know im ghetto i know how im looked at, but i strive to be hope 4 someone else, at least my kids
btw they said fucc u 2
igive a fucc what he did ' ichop it up 2 go marketing.as was said earlier believabilaty makes for the best records his bio makes him believable. i've been shot so has my brother to me that makes me a victom of a fucced up situation.
now my uncle was a bitch his whole life been shot more than n/e 1 i know personally hes a cracchead and fucced up but wit a good pr dept. and some practice he could sell how much awww i dont know but hed at least have a good month.
as musicians we are story tellers true or false either way we whoever is believed and related to or looked up to will have a solid base
i love 50 cuz him makin it says fucc u
and ten racist that look like u
when u come from nuthin and u see someone from a situuation simular to yours or worse make it, it gives u hope, HOPE
thats how the story robin hood came 2 be hope
i know im ghetto i know how im looked at, but i strive to be hope 4 someone else, at least my kids
btw they said fucc u 2
soundboy
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Jadion HAD YOU ENDED it with the first post you might not be catching this heat. I would have just wrote you off as ignorant. First off dont try to claim America because you just visiting to. Dont talk about baseball because it was not invented here alon it was spawn from another game and as soon as i find the link i'll provided it. Lets not talk about equality untill you are on a level playing field. a playing field that starts equal not 400 years later trying to make it appear equal. A lot of the stuff you "just dont get" is because its not your reality so it will seem minor and unimportant to you. You dont see me complaining about white women being all over black men and ridiculing them for not being with white men do you. Because its not my problem while it may be important to some white men it is not to me. In the same sense I dont make light fun of it if I'm not on the front line. Front line being one of those cats thats mad , or being the cat that is in the relationship and still knowing how far to go on that line. You cant say certain stuf because it is offensive. You know why white comedians are more politically correct because they want to appeal to a different audience While chriss rock has a whole other market in mind. Bottom line is you are on a pc you can spit all the bullshit you want but in real life yo every statment has consequences. Hip hop was built with unity of people who understood and respected the culture. all black latin and a small minority of white people that were all poor and respected each others way of livin and strugglin. You actin like its a brand name and once you get it you are black so all rules apply evenly and that aint neva gone happen. You wanna know if you hiphop ask yaself would you keep doing hiphop if there was no money in it or no future hopes of money comming from it. We could sit here and tear each others race down post for post but i would prefer to tear your ignorance down instead. and Ross perot had nothing to do with that phrase being disliked . if he said it and nobody was feelin it did you really think you had more charisma to get it by because you are in a rap forum room. Like my man said earlier it is because of dickheads like you that black and white interacial couples get so much heat. I say black and white because no body ever looks at two different minorities as interacial. Only when one person is white. Why is that?
(To the common sense people if I came a little to close to that hate line my bad. I'm just about find a mother ___- That vibes or clicks with you and respect yo gangsta and run with that . SO PLEASE DON'T EVERYBODY BLAST Jadion. TRY TO TEACH HIS IGGNORANT ASS SO HE CAN SHAKE THE SHROUD OF THE IGNORANT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW HE IS THEIR KING)
(To the common sense people if I came a little to close to that hate line my bad. I'm just about find a mother ___- That vibes or clicks with you and respect yo gangsta and run with that . SO PLEASE DON'T EVERYBODY BLAST Jadion. TRY TO TEACH HIS IGGNORANT ASS SO HE CAN SHAKE THE SHROUD OF THE IGNORANT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW HE IS THEIR KING)
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JadionMusic
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Musac, you are an uneducated , no spelling idiot and I can't understand WHAT THE FUCK you are saying. YOU are a prime example of what is wrong with todays youth. 50 is a criminal... not to mention a low quality rapper, but hey he made it, I can't say much. But as a person, he sucks, AND he is an ASSHOLE to his fans, I HAVE SEEN HIM DO IT IN PERSON. You worship a thug and you call successful black men house niggas. I am not a racist, I AM however prejudiced.. there IS A DIFFERENCE. SOundboy... I assure you that you cannot educate me on history. PERHAPS YOU SHOULD BE EDUCATING YOURSELF. Blacks want everything 50/50, when they only account for 13% of the USA. As far as Slavery, give me a mother fucking break with that shit. EVERY RACE HAS BEEN ENSLAVED IN HISTORY AT SOME POINT. Hell, BLACKS ROUNDED UP AND SOLD THE BLACKS TO THE WHITE AMERICANS!! Why do you always forget that fact?? Besides, if it is ok to say the shit you guys say about Timberlake because he is white, EXPECT TO GET THE SAME ABOUT YOURSELVES.. this is BULLSHIT and you guys are the truly ignorant ones. You call me a racist, because I am tired of blacks being the only ones accepted to critique another race. IT ISN'T about RACE.. it is the BEHAVIOR!! You should listen to Chris Rock about black people versus niggas. It is the most TRUTHFUL words ever spoken by a black man who made it big.... people who fall in the class of what I hate in society come in all races, and it is the CLASS OF BEHAVIOR that I detest, I don't give a fuck what you or anyone else here says. I didn't point out YOU ALL's racism towards Justin Timberlake for you to say I AM RACIST you fucking hipocrits. As I said before, QUIT TRYING TO PLAY THE POOR ME RACE CARD for everything wrong with the youth of America. YES, BLACK youth included. I am NOT a racist... period, but if you wanna call me that, it's on you. Your ignorance and lack of social awareness will only further my point. For the last time.... your problems AND solutions lie in the mirror.
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musac
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i aint complainin i take shortcutz on spellin when typin.
i dont worship no man period.
respect every last 1 that makes it in the world period
but u dont know about that huh
succ a dicc and die slow
i dont worship no man period.
respect every last 1 that makes it in the world period
but u dont know about that huh
succ a dicc and die slow
soundboy
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TO REITERATE MY POINT
i THINK YOU JUST TAKE PLEASURE IN THROWING THE n BOMB OUT JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE ON A FORUM WHERE NOBODY CAN REACH OUT AND TOUCH YOU. YOU HIDE BEHIND THE NET BECAUSE IN YOUR REAL LIFE YOU PROBABLY GAG ON YOUR OWN WORDS.
soundboy said:
i THINK YOU JUST TAKE PLEASURE IN THROWING THE n BOMB OUT JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE ON A FORUM WHERE NOBODY CAN REACH OUT AND TOUCH YOU. YOU HIDE BEHIND THE NET BECAUSE IN YOUR REAL LIFE YOU PROBABLY GAG ON YOUR OWN WORDS.
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leonardjamaar
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Yeah Jadion,
...you need to ease up with saying "nigger". Whether you care or not, I find it offensive. I don't agree with you, but I definitely wouldn't attack you with such derrogatory language. On the contrary, you seem intent upon pushing people's buttons. That's your crutch, and that's on you. When I log on here I just like to learn a little and talk a lil ----. You may be the same, but you're taking it too far.
BACK DOWN.
one.
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...you need to ease up with saying "nigger". Whether you care or not, I find it offensive. I don't agree with you, but I definitely wouldn't attack you with such derrogatory language. On the contrary, you seem intent upon pushing people's buttons. That's your crutch, and that's on you. When I log on here I just like to learn a little and talk a lil ----. You may be the same, but you're taking it too far.
BACK DOWN.
one.
-L
MISTERQCUE
Not Just Anutha Brutha
Yo' Jadion, like my alias "Mustafa Salaam" said, have a beer and call me in the mornin'!
Chill peeps! It's all moo-zic and it's all good, whether you like this style or that, this performer or that, whatever!!!
In my book, moo-zic has no color! Moo-zic in ALL forms are created from the soul of an individual to share with others. Interpretations of one's lifestlye's,emotions, experiences, wisdom,
opinions and ideas,expectations,fantasies and realities.Every-1 has the RIGHT to express thier perception or opinion about that individual's creation w/o being branded as a racist or what-have-you! Your replies in re to the original topic of this thread indicates some sort of anger or frustration for not having your talents recognized by the "YOU PEOPLE" community of rap/hip-hop (I tasted some of your flow on a anutha' thread and you do possess
TALENT and SKILLZ).
You made negative comments in re to .50 and that's your right, but keep in mind that there are numerous anti-heros in the moo-zic genre of all persuasions who have partaken in and been a party of un-sociable and/or criminal & suicidal behaviour , yet have produced
moo-zical masterpieces.
Peep the history of Marvin Gaye, Jaco Pastorius,Charlie"Bird" Parker, Natalie Cole, Kurt Cobain,Hall & Oates,Donald "Duck" Dunne, Willie Bobo, etc, etc,etc. Artists who have had their share of troubles yet produced astounding works of art which they were mainly judged by!
I'm a jazz/funk/r&b musician,having had the opportunity to do studio session work with Frank Wes, Walter Murphy, Aretha , Phill Ames-Fine, Russel Bracher, Stan Marlin and a few others playing bass for over 30 years. During that time and valuable learning exp, I've learned to ingore n-ookies like you, whether they're white,black,green,purple or polka-dot, who want to inject racism into the world of moo-zic, but if you truly wanna' LEARN about
hatin' and or racism on THE REAL, you and I can start a thread
in the"DRAGON's CAVE" (where sh#t like this belongs) when we can get deep on the subject, rather than this nickle & dime bo-sh#t that's flowin' in this thread!
Nuff' said!
Peace
Q.rM
Chill peeps! It's all moo-zic and it's all good, whether you like this style or that, this performer or that, whatever!!!
In my book, moo-zic has no color! Moo-zic in ALL forms are created from the soul of an individual to share with others. Interpretations of one's lifestlye's,emotions, experiences, wisdom,
opinions and ideas,expectations,fantasies and realities.Every-1 has the RIGHT to express thier perception or opinion about that individual's creation w/o being branded as a racist or what-have-you! Your replies in re to the original topic of this thread indicates some sort of anger or frustration for not having your talents recognized by the "YOU PEOPLE" community of rap/hip-hop (I tasted some of your flow on a anutha' thread and you do possess
TALENT and SKILLZ).
You made negative comments in re to .50 and that's your right, but keep in mind that there are numerous anti-heros in the moo-zic genre of all persuasions who have partaken in and been a party of un-sociable and/or criminal & suicidal behaviour , yet have produced
moo-zical masterpieces.
Peep the history of Marvin Gaye, Jaco Pastorius,Charlie"Bird" Parker, Natalie Cole, Kurt Cobain,Hall & Oates,Donald "Duck" Dunne, Willie Bobo, etc, etc,etc. Artists who have had their share of troubles yet produced astounding works of art which they were mainly judged by!
I'm a jazz/funk/r&b musician,having had the opportunity to do studio session work with Frank Wes, Walter Murphy, Aretha , Phill Ames-Fine, Russel Bracher, Stan Marlin and a few others playing bass for over 30 years. During that time and valuable learning exp, I've learned to ingore n-ookies like you, whether they're white,black,green,purple or polka-dot, who want to inject racism into the world of moo-zic, but if you truly wanna' LEARN about
hatin' and or racism on THE REAL, you and I can start a thread
in the"DRAGON's CAVE" (where sh#t like this belongs) when we can get deep on the subject, rather than this nickle & dime bo-sh#t that's flowin' in this thread!
Nuff' said!
Peace
Q.rM
SPINSTERWUN
Active member
Quote from MR. Qx2
but if you truly wanna' LEARN about
hatin' and or racism on THE REAL, you and I can start a thread
in the"DRAGON's CAVE" (where sh#t like this belongs) when we can get deep on the subject, rather than this nickle & dime bo-sh#t that's flowin' in this thread!
Thank you, Mr. QQ, for that awesome suggestion.
I have been watching this thread. I have been seriously contemplating the deletion of this thread.
If the path of this thread continues to inflate, I will be left with no other choice........
SPINSTERWUN - MODERATOR
but if you truly wanna' LEARN about
hatin' and or racism on THE REAL, you and I can start a thread
in the"DRAGON's CAVE" (where sh#t like this belongs) when we can get deep on the subject, rather than this nickle & dime bo-sh#t that's flowin' in this thread!
Thank you, Mr. QQ, for that awesome suggestion.
I have been watching this thread. I have been seriously contemplating the deletion of this thread.
If the path of this thread continues to inflate, I will be left with no other choice........
SPINSTERWUN - MODERATOR
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JadionMusic
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please DO delete it... it seems everything is and was taken WAY out of context. All I ever meant was don't hate on a guy because he is white doing "black" music. THAT IS ALL.. and if you look at the first few comments it is obvious that your intent was to rag on JT because of his race ONLY. I mean, why even START a fucking thread DISSING someone who has made it? Aren't we all on here to LEARN and get better for our OWN carreers? Why waste the energy insulting a talented guy, and a good guy for that matter.. I am done talking about this, and I DO NOT hide behind this site. I will GLADLY have this discussion and HAVE with ANYONE who feels it is OK to diss a white guy OR a black guy for doing his own thing. I GENUINELY respect those of you who are making VALID points based on your beliefs and FACTS, not emotion. If you can dish it out, you should be able to take it too. For one moment, consider the things I have said in an OBJECTIVE point of view, and you will see that I am in no way promoting racism, but MERELY defending a victim of yours.
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musac
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i agree delete it.
jadion read all of my treads i never dissed him i said he was talented. a master in his craft whatever its labled. color dont make music souls do, emotions.
jadion read all of my treads i never dissed him i said he was talented. a master in his craft whatever its labled. color dont make music souls do, emotions.
SPINSTERWUN
Active member
As long as the temperment of/in this thread dies not escalate, I will not delete this thread. 
soundboy
New member
i THINK FROM THE ONSET THE INTENT WAS TO POINT OUT HOW HIPHOP IS BEING MARKETED AS a commercial product like coke or pepsi so much to the fact that it has gone to the media like they can stamp hiphop on anything just to sell magazines. It has been noted that record companies do it like they are the approving authority but now even magazines are doing it. The only approvers of hiphop is the streets and the hiphop audience. once it is accepted by the streets and not forced down there throat it can be considered real hiphop. if you ever been to a house party you know what i mean. this is not exclusive to white performers there are some black performers who get branded hiphop that aint even close to hiphop. Jt just happenned to be the example this time before it was pink before that it was somebody else.
P.s. doing my part to deescalate the situation
P.s. doing my part to deescalate the situation
Abyyss
that's life
^
That's what I was tryin' to say.
(I don't like JT music anyway, but that isn't to do wit anything here)
That's what I was tryin' to say.
(I don't like JT music anyway, but that isn't to do wit anything here)
soundboy
New member
^^
^^^you should have said it and saved me all the typing . ha hha ah
i cant even spell haha right i'm going back to bed.lol
^^^you should have said it and saved me all the typing . ha hha ah
i cant even spell haha right i'm going back to bed.lol
Abyyss
that's life
(hey, hop on to tha "Poetry Club")
soundboy
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where is it