Nick The Man
New member
how is the Joemeek ThreeQ Half Rack EQ/Compressor/Mic Pre does anyone use it
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ewegogetemtiger
New member
I suspect it will sound a lot like the other units in the 'next gen' of joemeek
the twin:
http://www.station185.com/kronoson/...eneration JoeMeek TwinQ Recording Channel.pdf
the twin:
http://www.station185.com/kronoson/...eneration JoeMeek TwinQ Recording Channel.pdf
alanhyatt
PMI Audio Group
Nick The Man said:
As with everything, it is different strokes for different folks. There is a great review on the new threeQ in the January issue of Pro Audio Review by Steve Murphy, so you can see what they said.
For me, well I think it is a much superior unit to the first generation. Remember, I have been working with Joemeek for 10 years so I know the older units very well. The newer designs offer way more flexibility and features than the older ones. I think the review on the new twinQ posted here idicates the new generation is much more flexible.
So if you are in the market for a versitle unit for not a lot of money, have a look at the new threeQ. It may be what you are looking for....
Fab4ever
Getting better
Alan,
I understand that as you move up the Joemeek chain, you get more features (i.e., transformer option) and more control. But I wonder if you would compare the actual preamp in the 3 with the preamp in the Six, One and Twin. Identical? Similar? Very different? Thanks in advance.
I understand that as you move up the Joemeek chain, you get more features (i.e., transformer option) and more control. But I wonder if you would compare the actual preamp in the 3 with the preamp in the Six, One and Twin. Identical? Similar? Very different? Thanks in advance.
alanhyatt
PMI Audio Group
Fab4ever said:
All new Joemeek models use the Burr Brown Op Amp circuit, as do all the Toft units. So all are the same except once you step up to the Joemeek sixQ, all Joemeek models then incorporate the transformer switch. This is a very useful circuit and adds another dimension to the mic amp that the threeQ does not have.
The oneQ adds a de-esser and an enhancer as well, but they are independant of each other. I hope that helps you....
Fab4ever
Getting better
That helps a lot - and thanks for the forthright reply! I think the SixQ is the one for me, with the iron option but without de-esser and enhancer.
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ScratchinBear
New member
I need help
what does the Pre amp Acually do for the sound. I read all the threads about them but have no clue what you get from using one.
what does the Pre amp Acually do for the sound. I read all the threads about them but have no clue what you get from using one.
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deepwater
New member
ScratchinBear said:
You get sound. With out a preamp the mic no work
Fab4ever
Getting better
C'mon you snobs. Actual SOUND is very over-rated.
Nick The Man
New member
so.. if you have pre amps built into your mixer is there any point in buying them
alanhyatt
PMI Audio Group
ScratchinBear said:
Without rambling on and getting into a white paper on this. Let me explain it to you this way. An input amplifier takes audio signals from any XLR microphone,
musical instrument or high level source (1/4 inch jack sockets), and
amplifies them up to 'line' level. In theory from a few millivolts, up to about a
volt. This enables the microphone to work properly.
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ScratchinBear
New member
now I have a Berhinger eurodesk 32 channel mixer does that have a pre amp in it? and if it does is it better to have a nice outboard pre amp like the Jeomeek? will the outboard pre amp make a difference?
Nick The Man
New member
by the way he has the Behringer MX 3282 just to let you know
Fab4ever
Getting better
Yes, your mixer should have preamps in it - lots of them. However, pretty much any "outboard" (that is, standalone) preamp is going to have a nicer sound than your board's preamps.
Most people here recommend a DMP-3 (I have DMP-2 pres in my mixer thingy and they're quite good). Other options to consider would be the Studio Projects VTB-1, the Joemeek 3Q (which gets you compression and some eq) and perhaps the Rane one-channel unit. I believe any of those pres, which range from $129 up to $200 or so, would offer superior sound to the pres in your mixer.
Most people here recommend a DMP-3 (I have DMP-2 pres in my mixer thingy and they're quite good). Other options to consider would be the Studio Projects VTB-1, the Joemeek 3Q (which gets you compression and some eq) and perhaps the Rane one-channel unit. I believe any of those pres, which range from $129 up to $200 or so, would offer superior sound to the pres in your mixer.
Reggie
PutsTheLotionOnItsSkin
If the DMP3 is a worthwhile improvement over the preamps in his mixing board, I will eat your socks.
Cheap answer: no.
Expensive answer: yes.
If you are needing a preamp that can compress on the way into your recorder, the JoeMeek should be fine.
BTW, I have the DMP3 and the SP VTB1. But that's just because I need a few extra mic inputs and I don't have a mixing board.
Cheap answer: no.
Expensive answer: yes.
If you are needing a preamp that can compress on the way into your recorder, the JoeMeek should be fine.
BTW, I have the DMP3 and the SP VTB1. But that's just because I need a few extra mic inputs and I don't have a mixing board.
Fab4ever
Getting better
Reggie said:
Uh, I hope you have some pretty good wasabe sauce around.....
Think about it. You have 32 pres in an $800 mixer. That's, what, 25 bucks per pre? And THAT'S not counting all the other stuff in the mixer!
I'm far from a gear snob, but if a $25-or-less Berry pre is better than a DMP03, I'll.... well, I'll be shocked.
Nick The Man
New member
Fab4ever, when you say that they will sound better what do you mean... like clearer, fuller, warmer, or what.... please write back
Fab4ever
Getting better
I cannot compare them as I don't own the Behringer mixer. To be precise, I don't know for a fact that the DMP-3 is better - and I really didn't say I did. I just said I BET the DMP-3 is better. How? I am betting it's got more headroom and is, perhaps, less harsh. But those are just guesses - you'll need someone who has or has listened to both to fairly compare them.
And I'm not bashing Behringer. I just don't think it's logical to expect $20 preamps to sound as good as $80 preamps... Similarly, I can't believe an Avalon or Fearn doesn't sound a whole heck of a lot better than the DMP-3. (I have used an Avalon but don't own one, and can only dream of a D.W. Fearn).
And I'm not bashing Behringer. I just don't think it's logical to expect $20 preamps to sound as good as $80 preamps... Similarly, I can't believe an Avalon or Fearn doesn't sound a whole heck of a lot better than the DMP-3. (I have used an Avalon but don't own one, and can only dream of a D.W. Fearn).
Reggie
PutsTheLotionOnItsSkin
Deny it all you want, $20 preamps are in the same league as $80 dollar preamps. And if M-Audio put 32 DMP3 channels into a mixing board of some kind, I'm sure the price per preamp would go down quite a bit.
In my book, both preamps should be usable. The DMP3 is aimed at people who need preamps to go into their DAW and don't have a mixing board; it's not exactly much of an upgrade. Like I said, if you require a compressor coupled with a preamp, the Meek should be fine. I looked into the ThreeQ for myself, but decided on the SafeSound P1. It's great!
BTW: I'll take mine with BBQ
In my book, both preamps should be usable. The DMP3 is aimed at people who need preamps to go into their DAW and don't have a mixing board; it's not exactly much of an upgrade. Like I said, if you require a compressor coupled with a preamp, the Meek should be fine. I looked into the ThreeQ for myself, but decided on the SafeSound P1. It's great!
BTW: I'll take mine with BBQ
cominginsecond
Decentralized Media Mogul
My DMP3 killed, for example, my Presonus BlueTube. It killed my Fostex mixer. It's better than my little Behringer mixer I use live. I haven't used Mackies, so I don't know if it's a significant improvement there.