Joe Meek VC6Qcs???

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I bought one of these mic pre's today because the guy at Guitar Center said that it was better than the Focusrite Vocalmaster thing, which was in the same price range. Before I hookup the unit I want to get some advice from fellow buyers/users. Any settings to start with? How can I get the most out of this mic preamp? Is it really better than the Focusrite Vocalmaster thingie? Im using an AKG Solidtube microphone and an Audiophile 2496 soundcard, can I get professional results with this equipment if I perfect my mixes? Fill me in on any comments that you may have on this topic! Thanks!
 
Raydio said:
I bought one of these mic pre's today because the guy at Guitar Center said that it was better than the Focusrite Vocalmaster thing . . .

You should know better than to listen to Guitar Center guys.

Any settings to start with? How can I get the most out of this mic preamp?


Anything with the Joemeek name is going to require plenty of experimentation. You just have to play with it untill it sounds right.

One thing to keep in mind is that the compressor attack / release times are both very slow, so always start out with both at their minimum setting (all the way to the left), and adjust from there untill it sounds right.

Is it really better than the Focusrite Vocalmaster thingie?


That's totally a matter of personal taste. And it will depend largely on what you're using it for. You might love it, or you might think it sounds like ass. :D I happen to love it on some things, but won't touch it with a 10-ft. pole on others.

But what I love it on, I really love it on. Which generally amounts to be anything loud, aggressive, or anything bassy. It has a lot of headroom for loud stuff and won't crap out on you. If you really drive it hard enough, the compressor and EQ will impart a certain texture to it that I find pleasing -- kind of like slamming analog tape; makes things more manageable.

And the reason it's good for bassy things is because it responds flat all the way down to like 10 hz or something like that. In non-technical terms, it reproduces low low bass better than it should for the price.

What I don't like it on: Quiet things. :D It has a tendency to sound a little murky on less aggressive vocal styles, delicate accoustic guitar work, etc. Self-noise can also be an issue, too, so I certainly wouldn't use it classical guitar. That's where something like the Focusrite thingie might really shine, I'd suspect. In comparison, the Focusrite tends to be a very nice, quiet, clean, transparent, etc. -- although sometimes a little thin.

The Focusrite is the model citizen who you'd want your sister to date or hold public office, and the Joemeek is someone you'd want to party with every few weeks or so (but not every weekend). :D

I started out loving it on electric guitar, and I still do, mostly -- but it's been finding much more of a permanent home on kick drum. I can't believe it took me this long to realized just how much of a perfect fit that was, but think about it : Handles loud sources well, excellent bass response, and opto-compressor has naturally slow release time (which is what you need on bassier sounds).

Furthermore, the EQ is just ideal for bringing out -- or taming -- either the "whomph" and/or click.

Im using an AKG Solidtube microphone and an Audiophile 2496 soundcard, can I get professional results with this equipment if I perfect my mixes?

If you indeed perfect your mixes, you can get professional results with much less . . . but not many people I know have ever "perfected" anything, let alone their mixes. :D
 
what chess said. Also, I crank the gain if the sources aren't loud enough, so, I can get some character out of the opt compressor.

But, I have a VC6Q, i don;t know if it;s the same thing as your cs tho.

AL
 
I have the Voicemaster Pro and agree with most everything Chessrock says. The Pro is actually a little more warm than the original Voicemaster however.

On Bass, the opto compressor is excellent .

I don't know your price range but if you can afford the VM Pro it would get you a little closer to the Joe Meek sound as it has Vintage Harmonics and you would still have the clean mode. More versatile overall solution.

GC guys, well you could write a book. I have found their experience is generally what they heard some other GC guy, who heard it from some other GC guy and no one has actually turned on the thing or used it much. Especially true with mics and preamps.
 
i have one of those meeks.

i REALLY like it.
like chess said it isn't the channel strip for everthing but when its the right one....its VERY good.

one thing that it excell at is electronic drums///the optical compressor and the eq make electronic drums sound like acustical drums. The meek works wonders on electronic drum cybals (you will swear they are real when you listen to the recording)...that ain't an easy task.

its good on bass guitar too. I love it on electric guitar too.

bear in mind that the compressor is more of an effect than a compressor for taming dynamics

the Eq is very good...very musical...its hard to make something sound bad with the eq
 
jimistone said:
bear in mind that the compressor is more of an effect than a compressor for taming dynamics

Very true. If anything, it makes things even more dynamic.
 
Thanks for the info. What I was basically trying to figure out were some basic settings for the Compressor and Equalizer that will enhance an average male rap vocal. I understand that I have to tweak the unit to get the sound I want, but I would like to know a setting to start off with. I just recently messed with the "Meequalizer's" HF, and it brought some nice silibance when I boosted it about 4 1/2 decibels. I just want to know if you guys have any other settings that you use that turned out great in a few instances.
 
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