alanhyatt
PMI Audio Group
Scooter B said:
Actually the list was $499.99.
Alan Hyatt
Actually the list was $499.99.
Alan Hyatt
alanhyatt
PMI Audio Group
Gidge said:
Gidge, you give me no credit.
Alan Hyatt
Owner
PMI Audio Group, Toft Audio Designs, Studio Projects, and another one that will be anounced in a few months, just can't do it yet, but this one will turn some heads.
Gidge
Lapdance Test Dummy
where does Joe Meek fit into the equation?....
ps. sorry for understating your credentials.......
ps. sorry for understating your credentials.......
Scooter B
New member
Alan,
Nice to make your aquaintance in this post. I was just in the mic thread and reading about the VTP production setback etc.
I got the $699 list from someones web site that had it for "only" $450. When I heard about the $200 GC blowout I hit all the retailer websites I could find to try to find another active blowout but no luck.
I'm calling the local GC guy monday to see if we are still on for the used VC6Q for $200.
Congratulations on your succcess with the Studio Project line and best wishes in your future endeavors.
Nice to make your aquaintance in this post. I was just in the mic thread and reading about the VTP production setback etc.
I got the $699 list from someones web site that had it for "only" $450. When I heard about the $200 GC blowout I hit all the retailer websites I could find to try to find another active blowout but no luck.
I'm calling the local GC guy monday to see if we are still on for the used VC6Q for $200.
Congratulations on your succcess with the Studio Project line and best wishes in your future endeavors.
Fab4ever
Getting better
Question for Alan
Okay everybody, I'm going to ask Alan a direct question, so whatever his answer is, it won't be spam. Agreed?
Alan, I have a humbe homerec setup in a spare bedroom: pc-based, Delta 44, Art TUBE MP Studio preamp, Marshall V-67.
I want a preamp that will be both cleaner and more versatile, particularly with vocals. I want to spend $200.
In that range (plus or minus 50 bucks or so), what would you do in my situation? I know I can get the Joemeek MQ1 (I think that's the model) for $199. I can also get the DMP3. Am I overlooking anything Alan? Know of any retailer bargains out there?
Thanks and grateful,
Fab4ever
Okay everybody, I'm going to ask Alan a direct question, so whatever his answer is, it won't be spam. Agreed?
Alan, I have a humbe homerec setup in a spare bedroom: pc-based, Delta 44, Art TUBE MP Studio preamp, Marshall V-67.
I want a preamp that will be both cleaner and more versatile, particularly with vocals. I want to spend $200.
In that range (plus or minus 50 bucks or so), what would you do in my situation? I know I can get the Joemeek MQ1 (I think that's the model) for $199. I can also get the DMP3. Am I overlooking anything Alan? Know of any retailer bargains out there?
Thanks and grateful,
Fab4ever
Fab4ever
Getting better
Of course, that's the MQ3 that can be had for $199. Sorry.
Gidge
Lapdance Test Dummy
clean and more versatile?...i know clean, but by versatile, you want something warm? dirty?........
i love my DMP2 and im sure id love the DMP3, but its a pretty clean preamp and great for what its worth, but im gonna have to say....dammit this hurts.....JOE MEEK.....ouch.......or an Art.......
i love my DMP2 and im sure id love the DMP3, but its a pretty clean preamp and great for what its worth, but im gonna have to say....dammit this hurts.....JOE MEEK.....ouch.......or an Art.......
alanhyatt
PMI Audio Group
Re: Question for Alan
Well, you say cleaner, and then more versatile. I need to know what you mean by more versatile. The Joemeek (newer CS Version) is a pretty clean mic pre. It really is the compressor that adds all the color. I have never used the DMP so I can't offer anything there.
What I can say is many of the lower cost pres are a chip-based design, but that is fine as long as the design around the chip is good. One of the big problems with most low cost mic pres is headroom and level matching. If you set both input and output levels correctly, most of these units should have pretty good Signal to noise, so you should get decent results out of them.
At $200.00 the field is pretty big. ART, PreSonus, Midiman, DBX, Bellari, Digitec, Behringer, Joemeek MQ3, and there has to be more. All of these units can work pretty well based on application, and perhaps you would be happy with any of them. I would be lying to you if I said I use a Joemeek MQ3 when I record vocals, and I would not use any of the units mentioned, but my budget is different than yours, so how do we resolve your needs?
There is the used market as well that will allow you to perhaps get a more expensive model for less, but then again you have no clue how much beat up time a used unit has seen. The Studio Projects VTB-1 is clean, and versatile, but it is not out yet.
All I can say is knowing what I know, the Joemeek and the PreSonus is where I would put my money based on what is available right now, so if you need two channels, look at the PreSonus or maybe the Midiman DMP. If a good mono channel unit will do you, get the MQ3. While it is a no frills mic pre, the new CS pre is very good, and you have a compressor and eq as well.
One last option is for you to email me at alan@pmiaudio.com
Alan Hyatt
PMI Audio Group
Fab4ever said:
Well, you say cleaner, and then more versatile. I need to know what you mean by more versatile. The Joemeek (newer CS Version) is a pretty clean mic pre. It really is the compressor that adds all the color. I have never used the DMP so I can't offer anything there.
What I can say is many of the lower cost pres are a chip-based design, but that is fine as long as the design around the chip is good. One of the big problems with most low cost mic pres is headroom and level matching. If you set both input and output levels correctly, most of these units should have pretty good Signal to noise, so you should get decent results out of them.
At $200.00 the field is pretty big. ART, PreSonus, Midiman, DBX, Bellari, Digitec, Behringer, Joemeek MQ3, and there has to be more. All of these units can work pretty well based on application, and perhaps you would be happy with any of them. I would be lying to you if I said I use a Joemeek MQ3 when I record vocals, and I would not use any of the units mentioned, but my budget is different than yours, so how do we resolve your needs?
There is the used market as well that will allow you to perhaps get a more expensive model for less, but then again you have no clue how much beat up time a used unit has seen. The Studio Projects VTB-1 is clean, and versatile, but it is not out yet.
All I can say is knowing what I know, the Joemeek and the PreSonus is where I would put my money based on what is available right now, so if you need two channels, look at the PreSonus or maybe the Midiman DMP. If a good mono channel unit will do you, get the MQ3. While it is a no frills mic pre, the new CS pre is very good, and you have a compressor and eq as well.
One last option is for you to email me at alan@pmiaudio.com
Alan Hyatt
PMI Audio Group
alanhyatt
PMI Audio Group
Scooter B said:
Thanks Scooter, alot of GC guys get the pricing wrong, but thats ok. Let me know how it works out on that VC6Q.
Alan Hyatt
PMI Audio Group
Dolemite
New member
Re: Re: Question for Alan
What for?
You gonna send me some amateur porno?
I don't think I wanna know you like that, Alan.
alanhyatt said:
What for?
You gonna send me some amateur porno?
I don't think I wanna know you like that, Alan.
alanhyatt
PMI Audio Group
Re: Re: Re: Question for Alan
Now I'm really dissapointed
Dolemite said:
What for?
You gonna send me some amateur porno?
I don't think I wanna know you like that, Alan.
Now I'm really dissapointed
Fab4ever
Getting better
Alan,
Thanks for the thoughtful reply.
I don't think "versatile" in my first post was precisely the right word. What I really mean is, it would be great to have a pre that 's CLEANER than the ART Tube MP - so that 8-10 tracks in my final song wouldn't all be colored so heavily. But with added features like compression and EQ, I could selectively color the sound as needed.
At the moment I don't need two tracks, although obviously as my skills improve and gear closet grows, I will eventually.
So it seems to me the MQ3 may be the top choice for now... although I need to HEAR it before I buy it!
Thanks again, and my apologies for any %##@ you might take for helping a beginner.
Chris
Thanks for the thoughtful reply.
I don't think "versatile" in my first post was precisely the right word. What I really mean is, it would be great to have a pre that 's CLEANER than the ART Tube MP - so that 8-10 tracks in my final song wouldn't all be colored so heavily. But with added features like compression and EQ, I could selectively color the sound as needed.
At the moment I don't need two tracks, although obviously as my skills improve and gear closet grows, I will eventually.
So it seems to me the MQ3 may be the top choice for now... although I need to HEAR it before I buy it!
Thanks again, and my apologies for any %##@ you might take for helping a beginner.
Chris
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chessparov
New member
With a username like Fab4ever, you HAVE TO get the Meek!
Keep in mind you can always throw a different mic pre on the
front end going into the Meek MQ3 down the road, like the
Studio Projects VTB-1 if and when you want more tube tone.
My expectation though on the VTB-1 is that it will be pretty
clean when the "tube" setting is at a minimum.
After all in the "old days" of making tube gear, the design engineers were trying many times to make tube gear as
"clean" as posssible-how ironic!
P.S. For those who use a different mic pre with the Meek,
I've been getting very quiet results by running a balanced
"XLR" cable line into my Meek VC3Q-much better than
running unbalanced cable in. The MQ3 should be even
quieter. That's a benefit of the Meek's headroom.
Keep in mind you can always throw a different mic pre on the
front end going into the Meek MQ3 down the road, like the
Studio Projects VTB-1 if and when you want more tube tone.
My expectation though on the VTB-1 is that it will be pretty
clean when the "tube" setting is at a minimum.
After all in the "old days" of making tube gear, the design engineers were trying many times to make tube gear as
"clean" as posssible-how ironic!
P.S. For those who use a different mic pre with the Meek,
I've been getting very quiet results by running a balanced
"XLR" cable line into my Meek VC3Q-much better than
running unbalanced cable in. The MQ3 should be even
quieter. That's a benefit of the Meek's headroom.
Fab4ever
Getting better
Thanks Chess. Food for thought. And it's good to know that the MQ3 is QUIET without the compression and eq.
Scooter B
New member
Gidge and Alan,
I am now in possession of a slightly used Joe Meek VC6Q for $200 with manual. I won't get to try it out till this weekend but I am excited.
I will let ya know more later althoug all I have is an SM 57 (and I don't sing) and my bass, guitar and Boss DR5 drum machine.
I may remix some stuff with vocals on it first and check out the bass and guitar DI.
I am now in possession of a slightly used Joe Meek VC6Q for $200 with manual. I won't get to try it out till this weekend but I am excited.
I will let ya know more later althoug all I have is an SM 57 (and I don't sing) and my bass, guitar and Boss DR5 drum machine.
I may remix some stuff with vocals on it first and check out the bass and guitar DI.
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chessparov
New member
Sure thing Fab.
You're gonna love it!
You're gonna love it!
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chessparov
New member
And Scooter...
congrats on getting the VC6Q!
congrats on getting the VC6Q!
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Jack Hammer
New member
Happy ending
This thread was like a little story with a happy ending - remarkable.
I was wondering, I have a dbx 376 "tube' channel strip. This seems to fall into the catagory of "faux" tube among other evils of this device. To my ears its not too bad though I hve nothing to compare it to within my own system. So, what would you all recommend, the DMP3 or the JOE MEE VCQ3 (I hope those are the right model numbers), just curious.
This thread was like a little story with a happy ending - remarkable.
I was wondering, I have a dbx 376 "tube' channel strip. This seems to fall into the catagory of "faux" tube among other evils of this device. To my ears its not too bad though I hve nothing to compare it to within my own system. So, what would you all recommend, the DMP3 or the JOE MEE VCQ3 (I hope those are the right model numbers), just curious.
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Ellis11
New member
Well I made a bunch of phone calls today and found a store with the last Joemeek VC6Q around here. It was a floor model. No manual and no box and the jack in front is broken, but the price is $175.00 and the distributer said they would send me a new jack that I can solder in. I think I'll pick it up. Besides the manual is on the web site.
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Ellis11
New member
Now that I've had a few days to play with the Joemeek VC6Q I can honestly say that I love the thing. I also bought a V67 mic. The combination of these for vocals makes for an incredible difference from what I've been doing. After getting this taste of better equipment I think it's time to replace the Behringer Virtualizer Pro and get a better reverb unit.