Joe Meek C2 vs. MC2...any difference or no?

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Looking at JM C2 and MC2. The manuals say the Fletcher corporation moved between producing these two models. Input gain knob is bigger on MC2. Was the mailing address just changed or were these produced in different factories? Anyone here a/b'd them or have opinions on sound from one to the other?
 
joe meek c2

I got a second hand one a couple of weeks ago. I use it into a Tascam 414mkii
for acoustic guitar, electric bass. It focuses the instrument's sounds, particularly the bass into a more dynamic quality sound. I did not A/B it, I just read some reviews at Harmony Central versus some DBX units and finally rolled the dice. I spent $139.00 second hand. I would say it is worth that. I could never get a good bass sound any other way.
 
Seeker of Rock said:
Looking at JM C2 and MC2. The manuals say the Fletcher corporation moved between producing these two models. Input gain knob is bigger on MC2. Was the mailing address just changed or were these produced in different factories? Anyone here a/b'd them or have opinions on sound from one to the other?

No difference at all. Same exact unit. The new Mc2 or whatever we decide to call it is very different, but will not be out for another 8 to 10 weeks. So old C2, or old MC2, no difference.... Just cosmetic...
 
From what I've read (never had the chance to compare myself) the MC2 is as good or better sound for less expense, so just consider it a new and improved C2.

Does anybody know why JM discontinued the MC2? It didn't seem like they were made for very long...
 
Well, the old MC2 was not discontinued. The old company that owned Joemeek went out of business. I bought Joemeek two years ago. Since then, we redesigned all the products, including the old Mc2, so the new Mc2, or what ever model we decide to call it will be back on the market by mid to end of Summer, with a lot of new features.

New drawing of the Mc2 can be found here... Click Here to see photo of Mc2
 
I like my TrakPak I bought from you in '01/'02?. I bought a NAMM demo model and the JM47 and MQ3 have done nice things for my recordings. Out of curiosity, was the MQ3 manufactured under in the "old" factory or is it one of the newer facilities? It has been said the Joe Meek sound is a taste that one either has or has not...I have it, and love the character. Just wondering as I learn the history of the product line where it was manufactured, under whose authority, etc.
BTW, the new line looks very tempting. I am a home recording person...i.e.- my studio is for my works only, but how does the new 3Q compare to MCQ? Thinking of adding a 3Q just so I have stereo pre capability. Curious about the difference in sound I may face channel to channel.
Thanks again for the great products!
 
The old MQ3 and MC2 was made under the old management, and also made in China by ANS. The mic amp was very innexpensive, but did sound pretty good. The EQ was not very useable either, and the compressor was the Joemeek compressor which always had its own flavor that I loved.

The new threeQ has a very nice mic amp, very useable EQ that sounds quite good, and the compressor is a real Joemeek compressor, but has a lot of added horsepower if you will. Getting it to sound like the old one is easy, but then you can really make it rock if you need it.

All of this is my opinion, but if you read the reviews from Sound On Sound, EQ, Pro Audio Review and some others, they all seem to agree the new units are far superior to the older ones. Your milage may vary....
 
Appreciate your dedication to your product and exemplifying it on this forum, firstly. Secondly, I have noticed the MQ3 compression adds a bit of hiss in my chain, even when zeroed, just by activating via the on/off. I love the flavor, but anything I can do to remedy this? From my reading, sounds like I want to check out the new 3Q as a secondary. Obviously, there are varying opinions on Joe Meek products here, as there are about Marshalls on amp forums and Les Pauls on guitar BBS, but I love the sound of your product and, minus the hiss from the comp, dig the Joe Meek cult. Count me in as a continued believer(though if you have tips for the hiss on the side, most welcomed...PM if you do). BTW, customer service goes a long way and you seem to take it seriously! I am a humble design professional, but as I get the money not already spent by my family, I will continue to believe in the Joe Meek sound...just don't change the 'tone'!!
Dale
 
Yes, thanks for the reply. Wow! The new MC2 looks like quite an improvement - could even call it the MC3! I can't wait to hear it.
 
Kiauma said:
Yes, thanks for the reply. Wow! The new MC2 looks like quite an improvement - could even call it the MC3! I can't wait to hear it.

We may use a different model number for it because it is light years ahead of the Mc2. So all we need to do is decide on a new model number...
 
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Seeker of Rock said:
Secondly, I have noticed the MQ3 compression adds a bit of hiss in my chain, even when zeroed, just by activating via the on/off. I love the flavor, but anything I can do to remedy this?
Dale

The new threeQ remedies this. The old compressor was noisy, but that was a result of the design and components used....
 
Good job Alan... it's nice to see you answering questions without the highend marketing crap for a change. Keep up the good work. Don :)
 
DJL said:
Good job Alan... it's nice to see you answering questions without the highend marketing crap for a change. Keep up the good work. Don :)

The good people on this thread and myself do not need your approval over what I say. They most certianly do need you policing threads where I post in order to approval any communication I may have between them.

They can decide all on their own if they think I am marketing or just answering their questions. The only reason for your comment I can see is in hopes to start another trash thread as you have done in every other thread to paint me as the bad guy manufacturer trying to sell or market my goods....

So please leave this thread alone.
 
alanhyatt said:
The good people on this thread and myself do not need your approval over what I say. They most certianly do need you policing threads where I post in order to approval any communication I may have between them.

They can decide all on their own if they think I am marketing or just answering their questions. The only reason for your comment I can see is in hopes to start another trash thread as you have done in every other thread to paint me as the bad guy manufacturer trying to sell or market my goods....

So please leave this thread alone.
Nope... I was just trying to be nice to you for a change and tell you it's nice to see you answering questions without the highend marketing (my way of thanking you)... period. But, I see you don't want that... so have it your way... bye.
 
DJL said:
Nope... I was just trying to be nice to you for a change and tell you it's nice to see you answering questions without the highend marketing (my way of thanking you)... period. But, I see you don't want that... so have it your way... bye.


NICE...NICE YOU SAY....After all the things you have said and done....you are right, I do not wish to hear any approval you may wish to offer.... I have no interest to make ammends with you.... All I can hope for is for you to leave my company alone and stop spreading false information about our products.
 
Gentlemen, Peace be with you....
I think it is alright if we get a product representative to chime in...as long as he/she realizes this is not a place to peddle the product,but a place where musicians help musicians.
Alan, I wonder if you would consider putting some dry vs. wet clips of your products on your website. The biggest challenge for me in selecting gear is not being able to hear it. GC (at least the one near me) doesn't have a lot of their rack stuff hooked up. Just an idea.
Dale
 
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Seeker of Rock said:
Gentlemen, Peace be with you....
I think it is alright if we get a product representative to chime in...as long as he/she realizes this is not a place to peddle the product,but a place where musicians help musicians.
Alan, I wonder if you would consider putting some dry vs. wet clips of your products on your website. The biggest challenge for me in selecting gear is not being able to hear it. GC (at least the one near me) doesn't have a lot of their rack stuff hooked up. Just an idea.
Dale
I totally agree. Don :)
 
Seeker of Rock said:
Gentlemen, Peace be with you....
I think it is alright if we get a product representative to chime in...as long as he/she realizes this is not a place to peddle the product,but a place where musicians help musicians.
Dale

Exactly, and I have not peddled any of my product for years. I am here to provide accurate information about my products and give my opinions when I am asked....
 
DJL said:
Ok... have it your way, it's your lost.

It is not my "lost" Don because all you will do is look for ways to critique my posts, diminish the worth of my products, and bad mouth our quality control as you have done with no cause for the last two years. What makes you think I would ever believe you would change?

In addition, show me one post where I have asked anyone to buy my products over another in the last two years. If I am asked, I offer my opinion and my tag is clear at the bottom as to who I am. It is up to the user to make his own decision. I have tried before to keep the peace with you only to see you go back to your old offensive ways.... So why should I think it would be different now?

The prime example is right on this thread. No one felt I was marketing, Spamming, or hyping my products. I was answering questions and clearing up mis-information.
 
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